Why post/pre nerf doesn't matter

All these posts about pre/post nerf, how hard/easy the raids and dungeons are.
Yet i can 100% guarantee that most guilds will crash out around black temple anyway even if it is post nerf.
Not only that, do you think we will still see 200k raiders at sunwell, it will dip to 50k if that.
It does not matter whether you nerf heroics like people ask because come phase 3/4/5 there will be nothing but raid logger’s left.

Have you managed to kill Hogger yet?

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Might actually be better for active sub numbers if they don’t nerf HCs. They are very boring to do, so if they become easier, more people will start spamming them for badges and instantly burn out and quit.

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That’s if anyone can actually get into the damn things, too much gatekeeping…

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that’s exactly what would happen

It’s funny how little you guys learn from the lessons being taught in real time. It’s as if you have your head in the sand while you could be learning from things happening literally right now in front of you.

People (not you because you weren’t here) were saying this same thing about post nerf raids. Literally the exact same thing. They said subs would plummet like they did in wotlk classic if they released post nerf raids because people would be bored and quit. And guess what happened? They didn’t just not quit, they started running more characters and doing the content more and more and more.

I understand you probably aren’t invited to raids much and heroics are literally all you have, but for most people heroics are just filler content it’s not the content and nerfing them would only make them be ran more.

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subs did plummet in ulduar last WOTLK release and people came back just for ICC, i don’t think post nerf is a solution that brings back players, i think people just come back for the hype. You only need to fly around in the open world to see for yourself, t’s not exactly booming right now

I do get invited to my weekly kara’s and gruul/Mag, heroics are literally the only content that’s slightly challenging and entertaining right now. I like to do more than log in for 2-3 hours a week, i don’t pay monthly sub to log in for 3 hours a week lol

Heroics would be ran more if they were nerfed, but everyone would spam them, get their BIS and raid log their alts as well as their main.
Alot of guilds will struggle in SSC/TK even with post-nerf you watch, Black temple will be where 40% off guilds will crumble at even with post nerfs

Well thanks for confirming you lack reading comprehension. Wotlk subs have nothing to do with what I said.

Post your mains WCL then lets see it.

As opposed to the alternative where they aren’t running them at all. Makes sense.

Welp thanks for confirming you know nothing about TBC yet again. Black temple patch is when people come back to raiding and spam it more because hyjal and BT are easier than post nerf SSC/TK.

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do you even play TBC?

https://fresh.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/nightslayer/nicholl

Yes I do, I have played this way more than you. Now post your character that you said you raid kara on weekly let’s see who knows more.

do you even play TBC?
You’re the one complaining heroics are too hard on the Nerf heroics wagon and want to talk about what raids are

we got a purple parser here
are you proud of your 94 parse on post nerf raids lol

Well you keep proving to everyone here that you can’t read and at this point it’s getting sad. I didn’t say it’s too hard for me, obviously I have already done enough heroics I don’t need them anymore. I said nerfing them would make them ran more and people would be doing way way way more heroics even for their alts if they were.

My WCL just shows that I am playing and at the very least understand the game. How about you show us your character so we can check it out. The only one we know about is your prot paladin and if that’s all you have to show then you should probably sit out on these conversations because you have already shown you don’t understand this game at all.

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you act like 94 parse is impressive
not even top 100…
why don’t you reach top 100 then i will take you seriously

You’re right it’s super bad. Show me your parse to embarrass me even worse.

i don’t have to show you anything, keep parsing 94 and come back when you parse 98+
if you truly knew what you were doing, you’d be 98+

You’re right you don’t have to show us anything because we have already seen your logs, I was giving you the opportunity to give us something better.

We can see you’re a horrible tank who’s groups keep dying to you not holding threat and you consistently are in group with an 8 minute mag fight. Parsing isn’t even on your radar LMAO

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if you have already seen my logs than why are you asking for them?
if you think parsing 94 on a POST NERF raid is something to be proud about than that’s quite sad tbh

Well it was your prot paladin man, maybe you’re just a bad tank. Thought maybe you had an alt to share so you could show us where you really excel. Guess you don’t have any and that bad tank play is really all you got. Makes sense. You must play the game like you come with your opinions on here. Just not that good sorry.

I just started out and am in no rush. Was invited to Mag and Gruul’s and it wasn’t fun at all. VoA in Wrath even was a much better raid. So was Baradin’s Hold in Cata. In fact, Mag and Gruul made me miss those terrible “raids”.

Actually i come here to make posts about pre/post nerf raids. not to post 94 parses on here claiming they are best when iam not even top 100