Our talent trees are an abysmal mess, we are struggling to keep up in dps meters, we need tier to do what other classes can do baseline in dmg profiles, we can barely counter some M+ affixes if at all, prot is a meme for getting nerfed every time it’s good at this point, we haven’t gotten a single blue post since like beta of this expac, and almost every tuning I scroll down to “W” only to find warlock and no warrior in the patch notes…
Why are you showcasing warrior hero talents now? They dont relate to the main talent tree, they dont fix any of our real issues, lightning theme be darned. All we wanted to hear for over a year now is “hey we acknowledge that your talent trees suck dogwater and we are going to fix it”. Talking about next expansion does NOTHING to address the absolute afterthought of a state we are currently in, right now! And I’m 99.9% sure hero talents are not going to fix issues like lacking utility and also one of our capstone talents being said essential utility… Random extra stun going out that we have no control over its target for instance, I’m suuuuure that’ll help dps warriors making up like barely 1% of people being taken to high keys amirite… /s
I just don’t get it at all, what the heck is going on with warrior balancing over there? Why you playing these games with us blizzard?
These aren’t about balance tweaking or performance. The point of Hero Talents is to bring each class more to life from a thematic perspective, with maybe some minor alterations to gameplay. Blizzard has long been criticized for their classes being too bland and basic and never really living up to their class fantasies. Thunder Clap doesn’t feel thunder-y enough on it’s own, so it’s getting buffed. Hero Talents are intended to address that kind of thing.
It did until they “updated” the animation on it. Now they are kind of going back on that in saying that thunder clap is a part of the fantasy from the mountain king (thane) being a big part of it. Some animations have went backwards when it comes to some of these updates. Thunder Clap and Incinerate are the 2 that really stand out to me.
You’re kinda missing the point of my post. They could’ve picked any other class that isn’t in such an abysmal state to showcase hero talents on. The fact that warrior needs so much help right now, but has had no response from blizz since beta, and now they are talking about next expac… It is pretty out of touch with what warriors would like currently.
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Who cares what another class got? What an entitled statement this is.
Give me X cause X has it!
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Also to respond to this dude,
Everyone having abilities similar to each other but themed around the class, all fulfilling the same role, is called good class balance. Thinking that others wanting that is entitled is certainly a hot take if I ever heard one lol. Plus blizz explicitly stated recently that that is the end goal with their talent trees, going into future expansions. The issue here is that this design philosophy is not being reflected in the current iteration of warrior talents.
Oh, ok, so just to clarify… you’re mad that Blizzard is working on these awesome thematic upgrades and you think this other issue of… I guess, the fact that warriors are getting slightly edged out by other classes at the highest levels of the game… and you believe that problem is so urgent that no one on the development team has any business whatsoever working on anything else?
Lol bruh. If that’s how you choose to interpret this post, then fine. I’m not getting into a discussion of barely 1% of dps players making up high end content on this class with somebody being facetious and also decked out in raid finder gear, no less. I feeeeel like you may not have much of a frame of reference of what is actually going on in 20’s plus heroic and up raiding, no offense ^^:
I know enough to know that there are plenty of Warrior mains who aren’t hard stuck at 20.
Look lol all I’m saying is there are other parts of the game. Other things besides mythic+ and raids. Get it? Guess what, even a noob like me in LFR gear is aware that Warriors are getting edged out at the highest mythics. I know it, my pet hamster knows it, my 89 year old neighbor knows it. Blizzard knows it.
That doesn’t make Hero Talents any less awesome and an absolutely worthwhile thing for Blizzard to be working on. Again… why now with hero talents… because it’s fun and cool and it’s about things other than end game meter balance tweaking.
Am not hardstuck on 20’s, cuz I run my own keys for io, thanks for the input though lol. Warriors don’t need to hear about hero talents right now, we’ve needed our regular talents fixed for over a year. I’m not here hating on hero talents or the next expac, I’m wondering why blizz chose warrior of all people to showcase, when we have been neglected for almost 2 entire expansions now and the amount of blue posts we have received in that time I can count on one finger. Even a little kid with 0 dev experience could tell you it’s usually a confusing idea to focus on new talent features for a class when what features you already have aren’t properly balanced, unless the intention there IS to balance said issues through said new features. Anyways, I’d prefer if you’d stop trying to hijack this thread now for an argument that seems at best purely arbitrary contrarianism, and at worst, being intentionally obtuse. At least you acknowledge how bad it is now though ig haha.