Why not bring back the convocation

Back when the Sunstriders held the throne, it was the Convocation of Silvermoon that held the real political power, and did the actual ruling of Silvermoon.

Seeing as how Lor’themar hates the burdens of ruling, you’d think he would re-establish the council, so they can do most of the day to day ruling of the Blood Elves, while he can reduce his responsibilities to diplomatic affairs’ abroad, and leading his people into battle.

With this, Lor’themar would have plenty of time for, what ever it is he does with Thalyssra, and we would get more interesting characters for Silvermoon, 7 in fact, since the council comprised 7 lords.

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Just what the Horde needs, another Alliance style of leadership. That’ll make them happy.

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I’ve never seen a council rule the alliance, pretty sure daddy Varian was the boss, and anyone who didnt like it could get out. Anduin may be a weak leader, but the power structure Varian set up is still in place.

If anything, making the horde the faction of councils would make it a novelty.

I’m not even sure where to start with that.

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I’m sure you think because Tyrande defied Anduin, somehow you think they are equals, but I assure you they are not. The Alliance is built around the core of Stormwind and Ironforge, and only the leaders of those cities have any real say in the big picture, Tyrande can defy Anduin, only because he doesnt have the spine to threaten them with eviction from the Alliance, an authority he has.

I don’t think this should happen, but I also don’t think this really counts as an “Alliance style of leadership”, insofar as this council would only oversee the blood elves, not the Horde as a whole. Alliance leadership is more “one ruler with many senior advisors who know a hell of a lot more than the ruler so they’re basically equal, and if not, they’ll go do their own thing”. Or something.

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I understand what you mean, but I feel that it would be another avenue that Blizzard adds in and then never really fleshes out. Horde is currently governed by a council of representatives, and if they added a council to the blood elves, who would then be the representative to the Horde council overall?

By default whichever blood elf has a seat on the overall Horde council would wield more power than any council that merely governs Quel’thalas, and thus the latter would be swept aside more often than not. We see this already with the Alliance, in the form of the Council of Three Hammers.

Not really, for example, a US diplomat to the UN does not wield more political power than a US senator. The Blood Elf sent to the horde council would just be a representative, sent to push policy his superiors in Silvermoon tell him to do, not making his own rules.

Varian had no hard power about the alliance, only softpower.

The ruling institution is and was allways the leader council. So stop writing untrue things rivendal

And the synode is gone with anastatians death and the death of 90% off all high elves. To many members died

Remember when Varian charged into Ironforge without consulting member nations and threatened to kill its legitimate ruler?
Or the time when Varian demanded answers from Jaina for aiding Thunder Bluff against the Grimtotem? At a point where Jaina suspected he might imprison her.
How about the time Varian’s vote against bringing the worgen into the Alliance was somehow going to override the votes of all the other member nations to allow them in?

Good times * snickers *

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I wish the Alliance had a council.

When all the leaders of the Alliance voted to let the Worgen into the alliance, Varian saying no was enough to stop them all, he had to be convinced, because his authority was absolute. Perhaps you should get your facts straight, before accusing me of lying.

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Remember the scenario bloody snow.

V: give me troops
D: no…have a nice day
V: pllllllls.
D: how annoying, oky, we will help you

Or

I must convince tyrande not to kill all hordes after soo, i talk to her for days/weeks

Or

V: how dare you,jaina
J: you have no power over me, bye

because all member states must agree to let someone into the alliance. If the orcs ask to join and the nightelves say no, then the orcs can’t join

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None of your examples show that Varian doesn’t have absolute power. Just that he wants to avoid conflict. The examples I gave are those of his absolute power, which shows that he can exercise it whenever he feels like, though he may avoid doing so if it is not advantageous to him.

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The dwarfs have not supportet the alliance with their troops until 5.2 happened. Varian must beg to get troops and only after bloody snow they agree. Varians attack on if against moira was against the kidnapper of his son and against a invader. Bad example

If tyrande would say no: it would happened and varian can’t do anything to change that.

Jaina too, in the end: varians power was stricktly limited. If a memberstate don’t agree then the highking were powerless

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The Blood in the Snow scenario wasn’t to recruit dwarven forces, they were already active in the war. It was to specifically gain Moira’s trust and the dark iron forces she pledged afterwards. Varian as an authoritarian power cannot demand which or how many forces join, but the dwarves still have to play a part in the war, just like the Warchief demands.

As for Tyrande, not really, he still sought peace despite Jaina’s opposition- it was a decision of his own. That shows that even Tyrande’s opinion wouldn’t matter .

Look, even one instance is enough to show that the Alliance member states aren’t equal council members, but now we have plenty.

Play it again, no sir, the dwarfs hold their troops back and nothing changed that before the scenario happened

The highking can’t demmand troops, he can only beg for them.

He is the supreme commander, not a warchief

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I literally went through the transcript. The dwarves still have forces there. The dark irons are still there. As I said, Varian cannot demand how many forces join in a conflict, just their involvement. Besides, they were already in a war against the Horde, they have an excuse to not send forces.

And a memberstate can say: no, you get not a single one from my troops