Why LGBT representation in games matters:

I’m enjoying the back and forth to be honest. You are a brick wall that also happens to dislike straight people immensely and apparently have actual fear of your existence being erased by them, which is by definition a phobia.

Revealing yourself in ways you don’t even understand.

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this is fantasy land it don’t have to bring reality into it if it don’t want to, get over it. trolls who do nothing irl or in game to ever help but make things worse for whatever you are. kind of sounds like any form of entertainment should be flooded with with what you want or you just keep on trolling, wow forums have gone straight to dumpster for sure.

No that is not what I am trying to say .

I have no problem with them adding LGBT content in if it makes sense to the story .

What I am asking is do you want that representation to be say on a scale of 1 -10 with 1 being the least and 10 being the highest as far as importance goes towards that character or multiple characters?

What I am asking is do you want characters that are LGBT characters or content just because they are or do you want LGBT characters or content because it makes sense to the current story?

If it is the former,( just because) then I’m afraid what will happen is all you will get is the stereotype instead of quality representation but if it is the latter where it fits into the story and makes sense I believe it would respectfully serve the LGBT community better.

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Sad thing is that the people that are supposedly “against” the idea are the only ones forming any kind of constructive implementation plans lol.

“We need representation.”

“Well, how much, where, and to what degree?”

“I dOnT cARe MaKE IT nOW!”

I honestly think a lot of these people are trolls and the ones that yes we want representation but we want it to make sense because of the story are the true members of the community .

All these people so afraid to answer if they want being gay to be a defining characteristic or just a part who the character is are the fakes . Because they would not be able to help themselves and give the wrong answer .

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Isnt like only 5% of the population gay?

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They already did

Whatever you want to believe. It does not matter to Blizzard because they are going to add more LGBT character, stories and relationships. I fully support it and hope they continue adding more. Why are you fighting it so much? You’re free to not play the game if it bother you that much. :woman_shrugging:

I am sorry, but did that guy seriously just “no true Scottsmen” you about being LGBT?

I’m not fighting it and you can go through any of my posts and they will show I support stuff being added if the story for it makes sense , if it is relevant to the expansion at the time . I am against it being added just because .

So I’m asking do you want this stuff added in a way that makes sense or do you want it added because by golly you just want to be represented?

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No, No you don’t. The fact that you think you do when its clear that this woke crap is flopping right and left is even more pathetic. Very FEW people care or want this. Very MANY are sick of this crap being shoved in our faces and down our throats non stop. I know this because anything WOKE goes broke, or did you not get that memo?

Just freaking stop already. Its not needed nor wanted by most. No matter how PC they wanna be and pretend they do!

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Can you show me one example of the get woke go broke?

It depends on what you mean by “making sense”. I think they can add more representation by side-quests with two LGBT characters. Even World-Quests or other in-game events. Not everything has to add to the main story-line.

What exactly is wrong with wanting to be represented in media?

Thats all these people know though, No matter what they say. Its become clear more and more. As times goes on people are on their side less and less do to stupid crap like this!

But again, go woke, go broke. Don’t take my word for it, just look around. What the 1% wants you to believe and do compared to what most of the world REALLY wants and thinks is proof in the fact that 90% of that crap flops!

Oh and mods, no worries I know a perma is inc, I have a lot of wrong think and lets just say, mods are a bit liberal round these parts. But I don’t care, I will say what I want until that time comes.

This woke crap is for the birds!

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Anyone else remember that dev interview when he said “you think you want classic but you dont”?

Again do you have any actual examples of gamer outrage amounting to anything?

Like you do realize your outrage isn’t working right? This expac alone has more lgbt representation than ever before.

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My man over here really shining with that HMP energy, the blizzard thought police aren’t gonna knock down your door man. Because the blizzard thought police don’t exist lmao. The mods could care less.

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Side quests are fine even a main story line would be fine too.

These would make sense and I believe they would do your community a better service . THing is there are plenty of people here pushing the we don’t care we want it now mentality and I fear that those people and a lot of these threads are being made by them are going to cause you a disservice and end up with the representation you want to happen end up being a stereotype .

I have seen people go we want to be included , we want the characters to make sense , the story to make sense but I have seen the other side of give it to us now .

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I get what you’re saying, and it sounds reasonable on the surface. Because, yeah, no one wants a bad story, and of course everyone wants good characters that are not negative sterotypes.

However, there is a dangerous side to that - And one that we see all too often.

For ~Certain people~ there will never be a “Well written” enough LGBT+ character for them. They always claim to care about the story, but in reality that’s just a guise to cover up their true feelings (They don’t want gay people in the game)

Wanting well written characters is good. I’d love nothing more than if all the characters were awesome, and relatable, and so on, but you can’t use “Well they must be flawlessly written!” as a purity test before a character can be LGBT+. That same standard is never applied to Straight/Cisgender characters.

I use him as an example a lot, because it’s honestly prime. Flynn? Flynn Fairwind? You might know him. Epic pirate, friend of Taelia, all around cool guy and know all over the sea as not someone to be messed with, mate! (That’s my Flynn RP. How was it?) People loved him. He’s a fun, funny, and all around good character. But concerns of how he is written only ever come up when you mention him and Shaw being together.

When their relationship was confirmed, the LGBT+ circles I am in were BLOWN. AWAY. Because we loved it! It was being done so well. But again…for some people…It wasn’t good enough. Weird, right?

I’ve explained this kind of thing in threads before, and it never seems to get across. That’s why I take to trolling a bit, it’s more fun than just repeating myself :3

I believe your intentions are good, because yes everyone does want well written characters, but I do hope you understand that putting unnecessary barriers to entry for LGBT+ characters just isn’t needed for them to exist. If it’s bad, we’ll call it bad - But the only way we get to that point is if they are allowed to happen in the first place.

Wow this was longer than I meant it to be lol

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