Why LFD is bad

Super servers ended world pvp. I’m able to ride around stormwind as a horde and never see one alliance.

World PVP is just not a thing for most people playing classic tbc right now. It won’t change in wrath either. The World PVP argument is a pretty dull one.

Plus there are plenty of Dailies to do in Wrath, those will be prime spots for world pvp, but it won’t happen as long as we have imbalanced super servers.

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In your mind how would non instanced bgs work exactly? If we can’t group up then we individually go to the bg instance we want to do, queue up from there and wait for queue to pop?

That’s a bad comparison because questing actually requires you to interact with the map and do objectives in the world. You’ll also be engaging with most questing prior to having cold weather flying, which means you’ll be on a ground mount and will have to interact with the content on the ground.

Removing the teleport doesn’t meaningfully change the way people interact with dungeon content. Instead of just showing up they hop on the 310, autorun for 1 minute, and show up. It’s just an added nuisance.

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This is what you may do but I imagine if you’re in a group you either have everyone do this or someone goes to the stone to summon where you may be potentially ganked if on a PvP server.

Oh wait, Benediction lol…artificial PvE server.

No one is getting ganked anywhere except grobbulus my dude. We’re all on glorified pve servers.

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Or with each other. Exactly.
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Would you be mad if Faerlina got crz’ed with Benediction for faction balance? Are you one of those players that is on a PvP server but doesn’t actually like PvP?

No, that would be great. I chose a PvP server for a reason. I doubt blizz would do it though. I also wouldn’t mind if RP servers got the extra ruleset of no LFD/restricted LFD. As it is right now though the removal of the teleport doesn’t meaningfully change gameplay for most people so I don’t see a reason to disable that part.

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Well most people are casual and most people don’t wpvp or even consider PvP but I did give a reason why disabling is a good thing unless you just skim over those parts.

From what I see the main reasons you have are the wpvp aspect and people afking in the cities. I don’t really see an issue with both. I already explained my take on the wpvp so I won’t repeat that.

as for afking in cities? Right now to get a group people basically have to stay put in shatt to use lfg bulletin board to form their groups or to hunt down a group to whisper so it doesn’t seem to be that different to me. You’re still not really engaging with the world until it’s time to fly over to the dungeon.

Whether you’re afk in shatt or standing still in shatt for an hour to form a group then zoom over on a 280 in one minute is not a meaningful enough difference to me to remove the teleport over.

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I don’t even care about the teleporting part.

The cross faction part needs to be out though. That was the part that made it bad.

I don’t mind LFD or even LFR so long as it doesn’t teleport players to the dungeon/raid, I think the convenience of not having to spam chat all day looking for groups is nice but teleporting is a step to far imo. I think players are also less willing to leave if they have to take time to go to the dungeon rather than being teleported to it.

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I believe you mean cross realm.
By battlegroup which was cross realm was how it was originally released.

I did. Thanks for the correction.

Its really the only reason I even have a slight pushback against LFD. All the negatives for the most part are no longer an issue because they either don’t exist anymore, or already exist in the community. This is the only one because without LFD it at least still forced 2 people out to a summoning stone for a group and I just like seeing people in the world.

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I’d be furious.

I have an Undead rouge on Bene and it is what the military refers to as “a target rich environment.”

Or, what I refer to as “gankalicious”.

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Battlegrounds killed WPVP long before dungeon finder came along

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who cares if you have to crawl to a dungeon?..lol.

I got in plenty of world PvP post 3.3.0. I used to slay people up and down the ToC questing areas on my DK, outside of the sanctuary areas, and all over Wintergrasp after the battle ended. Good fun.

this is a very good point