Why it's not for me anymore

Not sure why I can’t pick to post this on my DF main; I played hunter and shaman this expansion, not warrior…

I like to give feedback on stuff hoping to improve the product, do with it what you will. This post covers my thoughts on the game.

1 major Pro: Content
1 major Con: Combat

The good:

I really like the content in the game. I think M+ dungeons is a really cool and fun idea. Running dungeons has always been a lot of fun. Raiding is fun and cool too, but I’m tired of grouping with a lot of people who aren’t all on the same skill level. It’s much easier to find similar level people to play with when it’s just a 5-man. I’d have spent more time trying to raid if it wasn’t so time consuming.

I love arenas. Any new MMO that comes out that doesn’t have arena style combat feels bad. Every character I’ve ever played or thought about playing has had PvP in mind. I’m not great at it, but it’s fun content to engage in. I like BG’s even when I don’t need to do them for gear. It’s fun to just play my character and fight other people. A con here could be lack of imagination with potential BG ideas.

The not-so-good:

I hate the combat in the game. I genuinely can’t stand playing it anymore and it’s hard to explain exactly why. I guess I’m just an old boomer now, but I still really enjoy classic WoW combat. An example of the difference; if I cast a 3 second spell on you in Classic, you’re going to know it and you’re going to feel it. If I cast a 3 second spell (or i guess 2.x aimed shot as hunter) its like… meh.

It is not a combat style that I want when playing WoW. I really liked the simplistic approach to dealing damage in classic, very old school. The fun part was about making good decisions. Using a CD at the right time in the fight and not just the “right time in my rotation”. I like the idea of trading CDs, but right now I just can’t keep up. idk if I’m just too old or I don’t spend enough time playing the game anymore to keep up, but half of what I see going on in PvP is just way to hard to follow. (And I’ve been playing this game since vanilla).

I still play WotLK. I really like PvP’ing on my hunter. I push an ability and there is a real impact. Compared to retail, it’s all about getting a combo on someone. Which would be fine if it wasn’t for the fact that the combo/setups feel like 75% of your damage. All that time spending fillers is usually just healed or negated by passive/self heals people have. There are 2 types of effort you put into killing your opponent; Major effort with your combo/setup and minor effort doing plink dmg. It’s not much, but that minor effort feels like a waste, like it doesn’t matter and if I just ran away waiting for CDs, it would have the same effect.

Combat feels like it has wasted effort as part of the normal gameplay. Spiky combo based damage works great in GW2, not so much in WoW (IMO). The combat just isn’t fun for me anymore. Now, it’s an unfun barrier to doing the content that I like.

I think tanking and healing has become more interesting and tanking dungeons is by far the most enjoyable experience. But with everything else not fun to engage in, I’d rather spend my time playing other games.

I probably won’t play retail unless there are major changes to the combat. It’s really important to me that it feels right. 90% of the reason I stuck with BDO for so long (and spent sooooo much $$ into it) was because the combat was S++. I spent HOURS mindlessly grinding in that game because the combat was just so good, I looked for any reason to go out and kill stuff even when I was past soft-cap. Just an example for the type of nerd I am. Retail combat and I just don’t get along very well.

Curious what changes will come in the next expansion :slight_smile:

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nvm, here’s my hunter. :slight_smile: judge me and call me bad. I think it’s important to post mains if you’re going to complain about the game

No you should be posting on your warrior, warrior is all that matters now

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Yes, hello?

Show-offs.

The combat huh… maybe that’s what it is for me? I was really looking forward to DF but after hitting 70 on my DH/DK I’ve only logged in to keep working on the snapback scuttler and korthia rep lol.

When I tried classic again a few years ago I had a great time on paladin, I thought it was just the way classes played back then but maybe it’s the combat in general I loved. I was super tanky but had meh damage, lots of thorns so I was bad against mages but destroyed physical. I can’t stand that stupid instant avengers shield and holy powers etc. etc.

Cata is when I finally quit, when it turned into flash heals healing you to full. People talk about the raids or pvp sets etc. when they discuss why so many people left in Cata, but everyone I know left because of how the mechanics changed to a more… I don’t even know what to call it. E-sports style? And it just got worse over time.

Bringing back talent trees was the right call (which is what brought me back), but these trees are quite frankly, horrible. I get pretty much everything I want, they’re way too small and with too many points given. Trees were amazing back then because of how many options you had and you could only get a limited amount of them.

I was tempted to try WOTK but honestly I just don’t have it in me anymore.