At 12’s class % is already ridiculous, if u go past that… its just non existent.
Why we are being forced to reroll? Just checked stats on keys and its prot pala or just dont tank
because the squeaky wheel get the grease and high end PVE tank reroll to the FOTM faster than you can blink instead of complaining 24/7
this lead to huge disparity in tank balance.
The general parity in tank balance overall is one of the reasons prot paladin is at the top…
obviously. the reason why there’s more Ppal than every other tank combined is because tank are mostly equal.
we can end the thread here. there’s no point in talking anymore.
When the tanks are equal, the prot paladin utility becomes something that sets them apart. Other tanks are more durable, but not by enough to make them more valuable than all of the ppal interrupts, off heals, cleanse, sac, etc.
The only real outlier is Brewmaster. Anyone refusing to take viable tanks for keys other than pushing the higher keys doesn’t know what they’re doing.
yup. of course. 100% correct. obviously.
good luck on your adventure as a VDH or wathever!
Or I’ll just keep playing prot pal every season regardless of what people say about tank balance, seeing as tank balance has been mostly spectacular for years…
This topic is exactly about pushing keys?
Starting at
+12=Prot pal 45%
+13=Prot pal 59%
+14=Prot pal 75% (for more numeric comparisson, 17000 prot pala vs 832 dks and 822 druids)
+15=Prot pal 85% (for more numeric comparisson, 7500 prot pala vs 175 dks and 172 druids)
Do i even need to continue? Why this is not taken in account by devs?
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Sure, but then Vlonq starts talking about tank balance like Prot pal has some kind of defensive advantage over the other tanks.
There is always going to be a best, even if the margin is small, and players are going to hammer that margin for every advantage they can when pushing.
That is unavoidable. It’s only a problem when copycats in normal level keys start thinking that the top tank is the only viable tank when they’re generally pretty close and have been for a long time.
this last bit is why tank balance is in the disastrous state it is, season after season.
Remember, the squeaky wheel get the grease.
Okay, I’ll bite. What exactly are the problems with tank balance? Please provide play examples and not numbers of what people are playing, because people are idiots, and that isn’t tank balance data, it’s community perception data.
isn’t it obvious?
you have 7 different CD to rotate through to handle tank buster every 12 second. You actually have a full blown immunity on a CD shorter than other class main defensive. You can actually achieve 100% block chance ( with pwar) while the 4 other tank are stuck dealing with RNG on parry and dodge. You have a cheat death every 40 second. You do more damage than any other tank even post nerf and it’s not even close… no, battle shout doesn’t bridge the gap.
You want play exemple but you don’t want us pointing out that 90%+ of high key tank are Ppal? make up your mind.
Because prot paladin is interrupt machine and on top of that it has many tools at its disposal for group wide use.
Play example is the list of defensives that you gave above. 90% representation is community perception data.
Now list the deficiencies of the other tanks. Are you going to try to make the case that prot war and druid are less sustainable than prot pal?
perception… driven by reality.
Now list the deficiencies of the other tanks
again?
Hey, my main defensive CD have a longer CD than your immunity. I have a RNG chance to die on multiple tank buster. I have gap in defensive useage because I only have 4 CD not 7.
Are you going to try to make the case that prot war and druid are less sustainable than prot pal?
Isn’t it already clear enough at this point?
You are the one fighting against reality dude. Then you dare ask why Ppal dominate in M+ and refuse to see reality.
Maybe because +14s and up are entering title territory?
Did you forget DF S3 was 88.7% Demon Hunter tanks at +30 and up? The .1% range is always heavily skewed.
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Because Blizzard wants to re-invent the wheel every season and gives themselves too much to do class balance wise. They don’t have enough people to do true balancing after changing the specs so much every season.
and what is tank balance? it’s not just mitigation numbers. this stuff doesn’t happen in a vacuum, so stop cherry picking data to support your argument.
What we really should be asking is, why are dungeons designed in such a way that players feel like they need a prot paladin?
Do you realize that Prot Paladins were at the bottom before the .0.5 patch? We had all of the utilities then as we do now. What made the meta change was damage.