Is it literally because they don’t want another class that has 4 specs? If so you’ve been breaking a bunch of other “rules” why not break this one?
This game can always use another tanking spec
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I wouldn’t call it a rule that there can’t be another class with 4 specs so much as that apparently it’s a lot of mental gymnastics for the Devs to even attempt to balance Druids such that they are on record as saying that when looking at balance they start with Druid and then move on to the “easier” classes.
I would love to have a tanking spec for shaman. I highly enjoy elemental and enhancement, but I have to turn to other characters if I want to tank. Baelgrim was awesome as a shaman tank in follower dungeons. I would love to have that capability for my shammy.
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Oh no, just like Mage, Priest, Hunter, Warlock, DK, Rogue, and Evoker if they want to tank. Classes aren’t supposed to be able to fill any role. Shaman is a class with a caster core and it already has a spec that bends it into a melee role.
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The arguement could be made for quite a few classes to have 4 specs, and the slippery slope would get a little steeper. Frost DK is in an almost identical problem feral had before they broke it up, having to balance around DW and 2h. Fury is similar, but fully balanced, why would you not choose to DW 2h? Ranged survival was another that was taken from some people. Don’t get me wrong, i would like to see a 4th spec added to every class (ignoring the balancing issues), and i know we could come up with some good ones, but shaman tanking was never a real thing they wanted, and there are other spec that really do deserve a 4th spec for balance purposes.
The reality is during War Within storyboarding, they choose the make Baelgrim a tank. They could’ve just made him an enhancement. I don’t think it’s too much of a cope to say someone on the team is pushing for it.
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why no DH healing spec ?
I had an idea for that a long time ago. It was called Infusion, and it involved the demon hunter infusing his/her allies with the strength of the demons they slayed. It could use Cauterize in the same way as the warlock imp pet but on allies. It would also supply some sort of support melee damage to regenerate mana.
I’m all on board for a shaman tank spec.
Also hungry for an evoker/warlock tank spec, but all things in due time
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It wont help tanking numbers.
Shaman arent historically tanks.
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My point was, shaman tank is for fun, and other classes need a 4th spec for balance. Making an NPC something the players aren’t able to emulate isn’t a new thing. Anduin is a plate wearing priest, Arthas is an everything DK, Tyrande is a hunter priest (really, any horde/alliance leader). NPC abilities have no bearing on the classes.
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I always see that argument. That’s not the point. I love the idea of not having to grab my warrior, paladin, death knight, monk, or druid to tank.
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Question was asked.
Question was answered.
You can not like the answer. And thats cool. But it not helping tanking numbers is definitely a reason why there isnt a tanking spec.
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Im confident it might happen one day, but not now. Because of hero talents. Each hero talents are already shared between 2 specs. Adding a 4th spec will force a too huge rework of that. So not going to happen until we get rid of hero talents and i have the feeling they will remain for the whole saga…
The day they add tank spec to shaman i will main it. Until then im druid.
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This is almost true, the melee role exists because the shaman units were melee in the RTS. Melee was always in the bones of class even back in Vanilla, and they used to even act as off tanks. But as much as I would like a shaman tank, I am not sure thats an easy ask, pretty sure the devs regret giving Druid 4 specs, so I am kind of with you here. Not every class needs to be able to do everything.
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Ya think this would be a great class to tank. Wrap yourself in the elements?! Strapping on some rock armor enhancements? Yes please!
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As far as 4 druid specs they screwed up to begin with making Feral in Vanilla a Tank/Melee hybrid spec. Especially once they moved on from Vanilla, there was no way to balance Feral having both roles as each expansion saw each spec across all the classes become more and more specialized and RDF became a thing at the end of WotLK. This wasn’t a MAJOR problem (generally speaking), until Dragonflight with class talent tree and then this expansion with Hero Talents (ok maybe Legion a little bit with artifact power, but every class dealt with that and it worked itself out over time).
Its fun i like my shaman. I like melee dpsing. I like ranged sometimes in dungeons and pvp, and healing. Why not add a tank spec? Would be nice to have a not so squishy shaman spec in open world.
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That’s not entirely true… the original design of Shaman was to give them the option to “Off Tank”. But, players found out that it was much safer/easier to just have a second warrior or bear to fill that role. So, their tanking ability was never fully developed and kinda just disappeared.
I stand by what I said.
When wow launched there was no direction in many of the classes. Shaman included.
By TBC shaman were clearly designed to not be tanks.
Historically shaman are not tanks. A time period that only existed in vanilla where shaman had 1/3rd the tools needed does not change that.
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