Genuinely curious as to why blizzard has decided to recap valor and keep the cap after the RWF has concluded. They made a big thing about removing the valor cap at the end of shadowlands and now it’s back and with a vengeance, I can only upgrade like 2 items to max and then its all gone… What’s the logic behind these terrible decisions?
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They removed it because it was going to be a very short season, just like how they eventually speed up the rotation on raids instances so you could run all three each week.
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Because the valor cap has nothing to do with the RWF?
The valor cap is there because M+ is already the easiest, fastest, and most rewarding gear system in the game as it is. Getting rid of the valor cap… might as well just remove all other content from the game, rename it World of Mythic+.
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Valor cap is the M+ equivalent of a weekly reset. It throttles how much gear you can get to balance M+ out.
You ask me, 2400 for 415 Valor upgrades are a bit too generous, but then again I think 418 crafts are too generous as well. KSH is also too generous. I have 3 dungeon ports and not many timed 20 (just taking this season very slow/casual at this point) but I’m KSH. The last minute IO scaling buff was probably too nice.
Wake me up when I can get tier pieces or get 421 trinkets for beating Shriekwing.
Because otherwise people would just do a 15 of each dungeon, get the top rating, farm 2s over and over for valor and specific gear, and get fully geared in 2 weeks.
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I have plenty of friends who have tier from M+.
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Can concur with this short fella.
The tier chest I have I got from my great vault’s m+ lineup about…a week ago?
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If the math is anything like it was before, the odds of a player even just getting their tier 2 pc from M+ with no raiding at this point is like 1/10000, which means there are people who have it, but not many.
4-pc, no shot at all.
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You’re welcome to do LFR like everyone else, clearly you’ll walk away with a tier set guaranteed, right?
This early on having high ilvl toons speed farming low keys makes it even harder for appropriately geared toons to get into groups.
The cap is actually a good thing this early on.
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Three months from now when we’re all waiting on 10.1 the complaint will be there aren’t enough people running M+ for players to gear up their alts in prep for the next content update.
Because raids still have lockouts.
/thread.
Cap exists to timegate people mostly.
Otherwise, everyone would be a minimum of 415 right now.
“If you think raiding has better gear than M+ then you should raid” is definitely a strange counter argument to saying that raid still has better rewards than M+, lol.
I see people on my friends list in LFR every week. People who are dedicated M+ players slumming it in brain dead content because of a gear gap.
And in fact, even those in progression guilds, with the exception of like three people I know, raid for the loot. Two of those exceptions are very casual AOTC Andies and the last has some sort of savior complex and seems to enjoy being worshipped for her healing parses (different strokes I guess).
I actually agree the cap has its uses, but I feel it’s too low. Should be at least 1000 per week, preferably 1500.
Can’t guarantee the BiS item you got at 392 will drop again at 405 to cost you less valor. Some players don’t want to run M+ like degenerates to get their items again at high ilevel and not need the additional valor.
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Let’s not forget that M+ also gives high-end crafted gear… doing +16 keys gives you 4 pieces of 418 ilvl gear already, with no RNG - you can have whatever pieces you choose crafted.
You can farm Primal Infusions in unlimited quantities in M+. The only thing keeping that in check is the Spark cap, which currently stands at 4 but is getting lifted soon.
Spark lockout.
1 piece/2weeks.
Any above 10 every 2 weeks is wasted.
After the 5th spark they are lifting the time gate. It’ll come from things we do normally (supposedly).
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keyword.
Anyone who doesn’t understand why uncapping valor is an absolutely terrible idea doesn’t raid.
If you hand out 415 ilvl gear for spammable, easy content with hundreds of available groups every minute, raiding dies.
“PeOpLe wIlL sTiLl dO tHe cOnTeNt ThEy wAnT tO.”
Mm hmm… there were almost no heroic reclear groups for jailer because his loot pool sucked and valor was uncapped.
See all those people farming keys for the first two weeks for that 389 ring? Where are they now? Almost like grinding keys isnt the content they enjoyed and they did it for rewards or something!
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