Just came back to this and now the horde is inexplicably evil?
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I think this explains it pretty well.
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Poor and uninspired writing. Try not to take it seriously, it’s like seeking deep meaning in a Disney cartoon.
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Your tears are all the pay I’ll ever need~~!
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I wouldn’t say that the Horde, as a whole, is evil… unless you consider the Horde to be Sylvanas and the Forsaken.
Aside from the bloodlust and demon-tainted Horde of old, most of the Alliance unjustifiably paints all members of the Horde as barbaric, blood-thirsty monsters… yet the Alliance has Worgen, Void Elves and Lightforged Draenei who worship Naaru that have no problem with forcibly converting others and inciting their followers to slay those that oppose.
Edit: Well, that last bit really only happened on AU Draenor. Most of the Naaru are quite accepting from what I remember.
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Dying, soul-poisoned Warchief Vol’jin was duped by something into naming Sylvanas the next Warchief. Sylv has never cared about anything but herself, and her death, and her undeath, and her revenge, and not dying again. Something is exploiting that. The Horde isn’t evil, but its Warchief is, and one can follow her, and be morally compromised, or oppose her and be called a traitor. Which do you chose?
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Well there was that moment when Sylvanas threw herself from the top of Icecrown Citadel, was met by the Val’kyr and had a revelation about her people actually meaning something instead of being merely arrows in her quiver… but I think she forgot about that.
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The Horde has always been evil.
Genocidal Demon Blood Junkies.
Greedy Little Buggers
Shadow Magic/Voodoo cannibals
Undead monstrosities
Magic Junkies that tortured a literal angel
Genocidal Non-Fel Junkies
Another group of Junkie Elves
Trolls that we’ve fought in a bunch of expansions because they are douchebags
Also two kinds of tauren and a group of panda that should have left after SoO
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We are followers of Warchief Sylvanas. And therefore evil by nature and we also burned down Teldrassil.
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I think it got lost under “Me dying is bad”. Making the Forsaken her “children” was a tool, a ploy, a cynical gambit for preserving her power-base. I don’t think it was ever actually sincere. I don’t think she even likes Nathanos, just his unflinching loyalty.
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Well, I think Sylvanas was never this evil, so this is why I’m confused. She was always ambiguously evil, just like the alliance pretend they aren’t?
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Her revelation was that she should treat them as a bulwark against the infinite instead of arrows in her quiver. She still saw them as tools for her own ends.
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That’s why I think something is nudging her, pushing her in that direction. It is hinted to be Nzoth. She was always iffy - I mean, she was never NOT working on a new plague, and with intent to use it. How little would it take to push her the rest of the way?
Honestly, I wouldn’t be surprised at this point. I believe I read that particular bit about Sylvanas in one of Blizzard’s writings and it was most definitely a monologue moment mixed in with some Val’kyr conversations, but Blizzard could have very well ignored the writing completely and people would just deem the moment as another one of Sylvanas’ many ploys.
Also, I think that the Horde is supposed to be asking “Wait, why are we evil, now?” - with the exception of those reveling in the chance to be overtly evil.
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I’ve honestly never been able to figure out why people playing zombies and orcs and trolls thought they were supposed to be the “good guys” in the first place.
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Bad Writing.
Sylvanas lost her mind.
Pick one.
We all know the Horde are the actual good guys.
Like half the races on the Horde are only so because of the Alliance making bad choices.
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I’m definitely in the second category. >;)
/cackle madly!
It’s gonna stink when the Dark Lady inevitably becomes a raid boss and drops purples, but until then, party time! And by party, I mean, burn down cities and unleash Blight! 
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I wouldn’t say inexplicably. The alliance aggressors assaulted the horde’s warchief’s lands. Sylvanas responded with possibly too much force but her and her people have been persecuted massively even within the horde (Cata) so its almost understandable that she’s lashing out after failing the attempt to help her people survive (Helya lantern).
Now? I am guessing you have not played since Cata.
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