So all healers need to have the exact same abilities that do the exact same thing otherwise they don’t have arms………hmmmmm
Classes can still have identity while still having the basic kit.
You’re oversimplifying it.
Baseline:
- Poison Removal
- Magic Removal
- Curse Removal
- Battle Rez
- Interrupt
All healers should be able to do this - No one is saying Priests should get Totems or Shapeshifting, ect…
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I’m enjoying the new kiss/curse affixes, I think they’re fun for the most part and they’re at least more interesting than previous ones. I think the problems with healer balance and fun in general are all coming from the fact that Blizzard failed at making mythic+ less bursty. I was running +4-5s last night and people got insta-deleted by trash mobs. Like, I can’t cast a 1.3 sec Healing Surge because they’re gone.
Had one dps rage quit in a +4 because he got one shot like 3 different times, but the group stuck it out in a City of Threads and we ended up 4-manning the last three bosses which was fun. I just think trash mobs should have CC and heals, and maybe a tank buster big hit move, so the focus is on healing the tank, interrupting the CC, but otherwise just doing as much damage to mow them down as quickly as possible. Pull size would be limited by caution around stacking up too many mobs with tankbuster hits. It’s no fun for anyone to get insta-killed out of nowhere and it puts a premium on hard CC and interrupts to not let mobs get off any abilities. Thus, the rise of shaman who have the toolkit to help interrupt and CC often.
I disagree, 5 man content just shouldn’t be tuned to need a healer to have a curse dispel. I’d like to see more non healer classes get decurses.
Giving healers the same exact kit is boring imo
On my mage, I usually have my healing addon turned on so I can easily curse dispel when we don’t have shaman or prevoker heals. Even when we do, because prevoker’s is pretty long CD wise and can only be spammed if you do the stasis trick. I think giving more DPS dispels and group defensives would actually go a long way.
Now is it true that most DPS won’t use this? Yes. But I think the solution to that is making more friends in this game to run M+ with that do use their buttons. Pug DPS should suffer the cost of being unsociable and bad. If the point of the MMO is to socialize, social consequences are the solution.
The point of this game isn’t to socialize though, it’s entertainment/fun. Socializing can be part of that.
I’d rather not never be able to PUG because the game is designed to only be able to do M+ without suffering by only ever playing with friends. Besides, your friends aren’t always online all the time to do keys, sometimes you inevitably have to PUG.
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yeah, and I do pug as well, but my expectations are generally lower going into it.
I also exclusively pug through WME because I’m ok with Friendly and Bad. I don’t care if we don’t time the key if you’re nice about it. We all have to learn. I just don’t wanna be screamed at. So if someone’s not friendly enough to be in WME, and also sucks, well, sucks 2 suck.
A lot of WoW design failure can be chocked up to Ion Hazzikostas being a smarmy pos with an ego the size of the moon and a penchant for verbal gaffes that rival septuagenarian politicians.
Shaman’s can:
- Cleanse Poison
- Decurse
- Dispel Magic
- Interrupt
So its ok, for one Healer Class to have everything, but ok for others to lack? That’s why Shamans are so grossly overrepresented right now. They have an answer to everything.
So, why take other classes?
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THEY DO
FFS THEY DO ALREADY
THEY HAVE FOR 14 YEARS
Blizzard just conveniently ‘forgot’ what magic debuffs are. Oopsie! Or they still have a deep vindictive hatred of Mass Dispel/Revival and want to make sure those remain as useless as possible. Then instead of making the misc dispels nice-to-have below outrageous key levels, they are rough in a +9.
And if you’re one of the poor suckers who has a disease dispel instead of the poison/curse that are constantly in demand, well GFYS for choosing wrong somehow.
Also blizzard decided to nerf tanks on top of not really fixing healing.
Sadly no one at blizzard cares and no one who makes call there will lose their job over this season and this load of BS
They’ve had that for the last 8 expansions
I hear you. First thing I did after reading your post was to go try a couple of 8 keys with shaman healers, and they went smoothly. Lol I came to the conclusion that I just need to only do keys with shaman healers or massively higher rated healers compared to the content being done.
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Blizzard prefers to nerf. They can’t get enough of making people irrationally angry.
Priests have has Utility issues for the past 8 expansions, and the only response is “What about Power Infusion…?”
Edit: I love that I’m being lectured by one of the most Utility loaded classes in the game.
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Blizzard has painted themselves into a tough spot here because it isnt some “lever” they can pull a bit in terms of blanket nerf/buffs. Shamans are competent at the HPS requirements of course, but its their total toolkit that makes them a mile ahead of everyone else right now. They literally bring it at all and it feels great to play them in the 5man environment vs. my holy priest. The short timer ranged interrupt puts some of the avoidable damage in your control so you arent so dependent on DPS to do so. Shamans feel like I want my other healers to feel as well.
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Dont forget! They also have an offensive dispel! Obviously just as useful as being able to remove a poison right now.
Right…
Priest could be deleted from the game right now, and the only thing Blizzard would have to do is give Stam Buff to another class and no one would notice.
Buffing sub-par specs/classes would be a free win as long as you don’t overbuff. Shamans need their spotlight for a bit considering the rework that’s about to happen.
Boosting a Shaman to 70 is $60 so they’re not going to Nerf Shamans while they rake in that sweet cash.
Seriously, if they were to give Priests an Interrupt next patch, their would be a collective sigh of relief in the Priest forums. Its literally one of the biggest reasons why they are the lowest picked on the totem pole at the moment. lol
Yes they can.
Make more debuffs magic instead of 75% poison and 25% curses.