WPvP is fantastic right now but res timers serve absolutely no purpose. Please remove them.
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No, keep res timers. It’s a clear indicator of who won and who lost. Death should be punishing in a game, you already don’t take any durability damage on your gear from PvP and resurrection sickness was reduced to 1 minute. Take the L and accept it.
I don’t need the players I just killed 2-3 times spam resurrecting to try to kill me.
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Thank you for sharing that perspective, I hadn’t considered it.
Just don’t make them so lengthy.
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The other day I was doing a WQ and got ambushed by a hunter and shaman while fighting mobs.
I died, no big deal. I wasn’t gonna let that go though - so I ressed and immediately jumped back into them, killed the shaman, nearly killed the hunter while but the shaman got his res in time to help finish me off.
Went for round 3, quick res since the gy was close - killed the shaman again and was able to down the hunter as well because the shaman now had to wait out a longer timer.
If not for that res timer, 2v1 wouldn’t of been possible.
Res timers suck when you are on the receiving end of them - but they also serve a purpose that I think is necessary in PvP.
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Not to mention that it was worse in legacy MMO’s. When you die, you LOST experience and you COULD delevel. Or it was possible that you have to come back naked. Thankfully Blizzard had evolved the genre from its Neanderthal origins.
“Nobody likes to lose, but we all need to learn how.” --Nucky Thompson
This seriously should be a loading screen quote in WoW.
Specific to this context, you need to be passed over or ignored in 1v1, 2v1, and even a 3v1. Sorry-not-sorry I said it. Why? Because at least until something’s coming down the pipe, NOTHING can beat a healer 1v1 and especially a DPriest.
We don’t need that idiocy. Sorry-not-sorry I called them idiots. It would take me, Cashmeowside and Papalone(hint: 3 of the best Marks in the business) all working together to bring you down Alphon!
Coming from the old-school, I like the FPS style of just getting back into the action as soon as possible. It’s just a frag, right? And yet at the same time I do agree that there should be a penalty. In this case, precious minutes that add up that you won’t be getting back would do just fine. That’s far better than losing levels and gear.
Dying in Stormwind City or Org is even worse. SW City has a real turnaround time of 5 minutes, which means if you didn’t get the kill you have to start ALL over regarding CDs. And that’s assuming your quarry even stuck around. It’s not uncommon for a ganking victim to pop queue, log, or otherwise leave the area after you fail. Almost like hunting deer in RL!
I think the max timer should be 1 minute, and even that’s up to the player if they want to wait out longer. Too much can happen in 1 minute, let alone 2. Speed is the name of the game in WPvP.
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I beg to differ. A good fury warrior can easily eat a healer. They just wear you down and focus on survival, bursting at specific moments to drain your mana. And then? You’re dead.
Draining mana? How long would it take? Don’t forget you’d have power CDs too.
I am aware of that SOME fury warrs in the past exploit the use of tanking trinkets, as there’s some 8.2.5 VIDEO history of that. I could last about as long as 2 minutes which is really too long away. If a REALLY GOOD MM can last 2 minutes vs. a Fury, then it’s no doubt in my mind that a really good Disc could practically last forever.
Really good Fury Warriors know how to deal with healers. Priests have really bad mobility in general. Discipline Priest only has 2 forms of CC, Fear and Mind Control. We don’t have a stun or disorient like Holy Priest. Fury warrior will stay on us like flies on crap, interrupt Holy spells, will reflect Mindgames, can clear our fear easily, all while dealing a ton of damage.
I’m assuming you guys can last pretty long because you have the ability to kite and have more CC than us (frost trap, intimidation, tar trap, concussive shot, etc) and have Disengage + Posthaste.
Then remove 100 sparks quest.
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Remove more content from War Mode? Yeah, that’ll totally help. 
You could always choose not to do the Sparks of Life quest. They already nerfed it from 200 Sparks of Life down to 100 Sparks of Life. If you’re not okay with potentially dying in War Mode, then it doesn’t sound like the environment for you. In which case, stick to PvE.
This. ^^
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Or I just don’t want to wait 2 min to ress?
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Then don’t die? It’s the games way of telling you to stop dying or to stop dying so much.
I’ve said it once, I’ll say it again, death is supposed to be punishing in a video game.
The bigger problem is that PvP is not balanced around 1v1. That would greatly help the problem at its root. People don’t get the most out of play. At least with an arena-style FPS, if something bleeds you can kill it. You can get fragged a lot, and give it back just as good if not better. As I explained and try to explain before I was rudely interrupted without cause, the game does try to protect people from self-depreciating gameplay with these rez timers.
In essence that’s why res timer is still a thing. But I really wish that optimal 1v1 balancing is even a BIGGER thing.
suh dude, you rang? lol
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Indeed I have! Who else could I think of besides Durostar? By our powers combined we can defeat a legendary Disc like Alphon…
However, I’m sure you’re bummed out about a certain Marksman development. As you might have guessed I’m not active in Retail these days(kinda retired or semiretired), but I like to turn my dish on these subjects. I’m looking really hard at Cataclysm now…
It’s good that you showed up. I’ve been wanting to look at your getup.
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Max should be 1 min.
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yeah bruh, a lot of people are jumping ship in dragonflight because of the mismanagement. i mean i already made 2 DKs as a backup comp, and won a few 3s manually multiboxing them. should be posting the vod soonish on the YT channel. Hope youre doing well bro!
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Yeah! I haven’t even gotten on the ship yet. The TRADING POST coming in about 3 weeks is probably the one thing that would, but I want to give that opportunity to someone else. For 3 and a half expansion cycles I’ve tormented my own silly faction. I’m teasing at the idea of becoming the first 2,500 HK city DEFENDER. It’d be just like Strand where it’s MY turn to defend the cities.
Then again, this might not be a good idea. I’ve proven to be one “bhad bhabie”. Anyway…
I’m doing or trying to do a Very Hard Vanquisher(D1 Rogue) run on Torchlight 1.