Why is Gilneas even considered it's own kingdom

The good news is that Maldraxxus might be able to come up with a way to clean up the plague.

The bad news is that Gilneas might be looking for a new king after Genn is exposed.

People do live in Chernobyl.

They live very carefully.

It seems that part of the issue is that most places humans have settled are either destroyed or overrun. As a result, humans either have to cohabit in places like Stormwind or Kul Tiras.
As for Greymane’s softness towards Anduin, he has diverged from Stormwind’s position before, such as aiding the counterstrike in Darkshore when Teldrassil burned.

Oh yeah? Do they spend 24 hours a day living under reactor 4?

As no one ever did, if someone were to somehow get under there, it wouldn’t be ‘again’ now would it?

Gil is contested and covered in plague sludge atm and he joined the alliance submitting to sw which made the sw king a high king.

Um idk, don’t know much about it but i know animals have been living their for years now. weird. yet that has nothing to do with what i said, i DOUBT forsaken plague holds same long standing effects as a fricking NEUCLEAR MELTDOWN. also like i said alliance own half the world, carve a little spot for them.

And it sounds to me like you have your own issues with not knowing the lore you are questioning.

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what do i have wrong?

I mean… We now have allegedly canonically have Stromgarde and Lordaeron is emptied out. Would assume by now SouthShore and Gilneas could be easily taken back with only real Horde foothold being Silvermoon? across the Plaguelands? With the scourge currently acting up?

As much as I as an alliance player would love some wins and locations back in our pocket, Writers don’t seem to agree.

Funny thing about Gilneas Blizzard was so lazy with the zone there is no where the Blight exists at all. RP players use the zone all the time cause its completely empty and there is nothing there.

Anduin needs a father figure actually. So it works for them.

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this. he was already at the point in his life where his kid was being trained to take his throne, now hes found a little prince without a dad (or mom) and he is a king without a son. Anduin is like his son and as before he was ready to pass leadership on, the circumstances have changed a bit but there is still a young king that needs his seasoned guidance. Hes not licking his boots hes trying to make him fit to rule, but still feels the need to protect him after losing his own son… to the same person trying to kill his new one.

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Alliance has owned Gilneas since Cata, Blizz is just too lazy to bring the zone up to date.

Genn is basically a noble by name. Similar to overthrown nobles of Russia who fled after revolution. The idea is that his name alone holds power, or that he might one day return to his former glory. It’s a common practice for displaced nobles.

Prince Philip (Queen Elizabeth II of England’s husband) was of Greek and Danish nobility. He was exiled as a child. He was still considered noble though.

Horde have had 2 civil wars while nothing for the alliance. The writers put all the human traits in orcs and tauren, while the actual human seem like they can’t do anything wrong.

I would also add that it seems like Genn Greymane also feels that he failed his people as king when he cut them off from the rest of the world, which ultimately led to the Northgate Rebellion, the Worgen and Forsaken invasion, and his son’s death.

Genn doesn’t appear to consider himself a reigning king anymore given that he often calls Anduin his king and doesn’t seem particularly eager to try and recover Gilneas. Presumably, the land of Gilneas seems to be forever lost to the Blight, but it seems possible that Genn just doesn’t want to be king anymore.

Genn’s reluctance to be considered a king is also reflected in his refusal to lead Stormwind and the Alliance in Anduin’s absence, which while he did so in respect to Anduin’s wish to allow Turalyon to lead the Alliance in his absence, I suspect Genn would not accept leading the Alliance anyway and would defer leadership to someone else if something were to happen to Turalyon.

They’ve never directly addressed Genn’s seeming unwillingness to lead as a king, but it seems implied that he is haunted by his failures as King of Gilneas.

As said in this thread, Genn Greymane is also trying to make Anduin ready to rule over the Alliance and he is in fact training Tess to lead the Gilneans as well, the latter of which is what the Worgen heritage questline is about (and is probably foreshadowing Genn’s death which may finally happen during Shadowlands).

I think the lore in Cataclysm actually states that the Blight is like IRL nuclear radiation where it can linger for a very long time. I think the Blight in Southshore is supposed to last for hundreds of years or something like that, IIRC.

That’s why it’s been speculated that Gilneas can never be recovered because it’s possible that the whole place is simply too drenched in Blight for it to ever be safe to live in again.

The lore on Gilneas is extremely inconsistent and its status has been retconned multiple times, but it always ends up being uninhabitable after each wave of retcons, though I think the land of Gilneas is gone for good this time due to the fact that the writers decided to make Gilneas the WoW equivalent of MCU Asgard where “Gilneas is a people, not a place” and can literally be anywhere the people live, which in this case, is currently Stormwind.

Stormwind being the new home of the Gilneans could also be the reason why the Gilneans adopted the Stormwind lion crest for their banners, though that could also be just a limitation of art resources at the moment.