The last 10 Tol Barads I have qued were 80 Alliance vs 12 Horde Players. Mind you this is in Prime Time Hours. The same thing goes with Wintergrasp and other battlegrounds. Had a Strand of the Ancients with 11 Horde teammates not even 15 against 15 alliance premade from Benediction. This is becoming very common. How is this playable at all Blizzard? Something else needs to be done because making it limited to play Alliance on certain servers isn’t working.
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Silly op, assuming devs do pvp at all to notice or care.
Inhouse testing let alone rando pugs.
I cannot lie…next service sale I may migrate my horde to alliance. I may as well joing the 4 side of 4 to 1.
I’d not farm the horde since this crap sucks and I’ve been there. 2 horde 85’s, soon a 3rd.
I’d jsut semi afk it till we won for my honor pay out. It seems to be the intent the devs had in mind, so no guilt about it.
I did a a few Tol Barad’s when I first got to 85, and realized quickly the disaster it is. I think it was like 30 vs 100 at one point, just miserable. I figured out quick that the honor per time investment was better just doing random bgs.
Now if they could somehow fix 95% of every Alliance team playing humans for the racials, then we’d be getting somewhere. But I digress…
Because all of you wanted your op racials.
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At this point its not the racials. I see this crap taking this space goat into pvp. and its not human loaded teams I get.
Alliance is jsut bringng people to the bg’s way more than horde. For a good reason. Its literally brain dead easy honor lol.
Its gear farming or I guess some found those honor items that make efficient gold. OR maybe hat justice conversion has an angle I’ve not looked into.
Now a solution to the rant. Merc mode, allinace to horde. Forced or voluntary, we can debate that. Voluntary worked for retail imo.
Retail this worked to get more horde merc’d on alliance when alliance, even with human EMFH, had population issues. Horde had 2 choices.
Wait 40 minutes for even 1 crappy bg. Merc it up, and get more instant pops.
The thing with mercenary mode is basically the “skirmish” garbage system that we have… these dev’s are so far obvious with their favouritism towards sod that they still havent implemented a way for people to actually be horde on the bg nope lets give everyone garbage masks and tabards that will make it work…
They havent done anything so far to somewhat change the players perspective in any sort of way… all PR talk and “promises” that things will be better on the future…
It strated out as the racials.
You go horde in era because bis racials, you stay horde in tbcc because bis racials, you stay horde in WOTLK cuz bis racials, you stay horde in cata because of bis racials.
This literally is history repeating itself, its why alliance is a dead faction on retail.
Yeah, its complicated I know. I liked my horde in pve too in retail. Not just racials, it felt like a better pool of people to run with.
Its jsut even lfr, ran much better there. when I had please shoot me runs in lfr…9/10 times it was on alliance.
Pretty sure Alliance is inflated with bots too… I’m alliance, and a recent strand i did , 80% of the characters on my boat stayed on the boat not moving until the start countdown ended. Strand is bugged so you can get off the boat way before the countdown finishes sometimes. I was literally standing on the beach for 10 sec watching most of my team stand still on the docked boat and when the countdown finished, then they all got off -_-…
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BG depending, with alliance sometimes getting 4 on 1 edge, 25 to 50% of the team can be “useless”.
Think I mentioned above for 1 tb just num locked around. That wasn’t hyperbole. I jsut wanted the win quest. Horde was pinned down. No need to farm the gy to make thier day worse really lol.
Depends on the server. Wouldn’t surprise me if there’s a shortage of Alliance in Cata classic after they destroyed the only PVE server.
Because in Cataclysm (as well as in WotLK previously) if you want to PvP without being at a massive disadvantage you roll Alliance. A filter is being applied each time there is a new expansion released in classic, and now you are dealing with the turbo sweats that are left over.
Simple fix, make alliance battle alliance in WG and TB when there is not enough horde players to go around or even mix some horde and alliance together to make up a team.
Only way this would pose a possible problem is with RP types and that seems like a small issue really
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Probably need Warcraft Logs to start parsing TB world PVP event… suddenly you would see all the spreadsheet andy’s demanding their guild run full TBs or they rage quit. /s
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How is it not? Faction balance is a player determined thing. In Classic there is less automation and more player agency compared to Retail.
If you want to see better faction balance, then create it. Though, to be fair, I doubt you care much about faction balance, you just seem to want different conditions inside one instanced battleground, which may well be a completely separate topic.
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There was a reason in Cata they made the honor for winning as an attacker 1500 honor. The map is entirely imbalanced in favor of the defenders and always have been.
Then you get these imbalanced matches and things get really skewed. Told Barad was really just a failure since it’s inception.
This is how alliance felt during orginal cata and lk.
this will be different if mop classic is a thing and whatever comes next… the reign of the alliance drop on mop in favour of more horde racials…
Horde has a higher pop than alliance does too. Weird. I thought you guys were the pvp faction?
Edit: Looks like almost 10k more players than Alliance.
ironforge.pro/population/classic/?locale=US
Aliance will have 80 vs 30H, all day long. If it’s late, it’s like A30 vs 7H lol. I gave up, Tol Barad is dead for hordes…
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