the forced rp where you have to find the spy takes longer than any part of the dungeon… you cant expect pugs to know what to do. ill dip when i see this pop up and run a key instead no hesitation
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It’s just guess who, takes like at most 2 mins if you alone know what to do.
Personally, Vault of the Wardens is my least favorite in the lineup. Probably even takes longer than CoS. 
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i never learned it, didnt play legion and for one week its not worth learning.
i just always find the guess who part annoying, even when i’m soloing it and paying attention some of the details are so wishy-washy
i’ve seen some people have an addon for it, not sure how it works
Just talk to people and they tell you a detail, if you have a paladin or DH they reveal the spy after 3 details to be even faster
i know how to do it. i would still rather do a key while having the debuff every other one can be brute forced not this one
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You know you just can’t be the edgy cool kid unless you can contradict yourself.
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Forced RP stuff like that generally don’t belong in any post-classic dungeon. Not when the name of the game is queue and complete quickly. RP is a pace breaker.
Keep classic elements in classic where they belong.
Fast fast fast! Go go go! Now now now!
Eh, it belongs in the pool of dungeons because it is a Legion dungeon…?
Finding the spy is really easy and even if you screw up every single step along the way, it doesn’t take longer than like… a minute. If you know at all what to do, it goes even faster than that - like 10-20 seconds.
This quite literally has nothing to do with this. It is a damn fast dungeon and the only people who ever struggle with it are people who refuse to read any dialogue, listen to any dialogue, and/or refuse to learn even the most basic of mechanics.
This has nothing to do with folks who want to do dungeons quickly, but is entirely about some folks’ refusal to learn or do basic stuff, such as reading.
The vague idea I just click on random people and find an answer. Did I learn it legit and it’s 2 am my time I’m wiped
Are you kidding me? It has EVERYTHING to do with the fact they have no patience and want to speed run it. It takes a matter of a couple mins to discover the spy and clear it.
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I don’t read any quest I just pick it up and do it and turn it in. I dungeon grind to cap on alts. I did the entire tww storyline and I don’t remember a thing nor do I remember what I did in undermine did it all in one day. For wow im not a story player
I’ve not seen DBM have this capability, but I know littlewigs can basically automate the guessing game for you.
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It doesn’t have it
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Correct, as of the dungeon finder in late OG WotLK where you needed 10 heroics to buy a single piece of gear and thus wanted them done as quickly as possible. Further cemented by M+ having a timer, this confirming that speed running is the canonical way to play the game.
I like CoS, it’s my favorite Legion dungeon <3
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One of the fastest dungeons and we got complaints about it