It seems really strange to me that Classic beta requires a sub but the 8.2 beta does not. It also seems strange to me that Classic beta requires a sub because betas in the past have not required one.
Thanks.
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Basicly thats the way blizzard wants to run the beta PTR is one thing the beta is another thing alltogether.
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8.2 is currently on PTR. PTR has always required a subscription. When the dev and QA teams open up testing on the PTR, they take a snapshot of all active accounts/licenses. If your license is not funded (active), you will not have access to PTR. These snapshots happen throughout the testing cycle for PTR.
As for the Classic beta, all we know is that Blizzard decided a subscription was required.
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By definition 8.2 is a beta and its on the PTR. A beta is: A pre-release of software that is given out to a group of users to try under real conditions. PTR is merely what @ WarcraftDevs call their beta servers.
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/sigh
Decided to bring it here, huh?
PTRs are open to public, Betas are generally closed to public. Like I said, in your other threads, Blizzard decides what the requirements are. If they say “you need a sub to test Beta”, so be it.
Here we go arguing semantics again…
edit: I see the post got moved from the CS forums.
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Betas and PTR builds, in Blizzard’s world, are actually different things.
If you recall, BfA’s beta was an entirely separate client from the PTR that was only recently removed from everyone’s list of available licenses on their account.
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Maybe because a sub is required to play Classic when it goes live
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It might not have to do with the Beta, per se, but more to do with the stress tests. It may have to do with testing the layering tech under load. They may be opening the stress tests like the PTR and require a subscription at the time they take a snapshot of active accounts. I don’t know this for sure, but it is a possibility.
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If they open it up to the tens of millions of accounts that have been created since the games inception, the percentage of “loyal” subscribers invited becomes even more insignificant than it currently is.
If you were paying a sub for 10-15 years, you would be highly upset to see someone who hasn’t been around for 5-10 years getting into the beta while you didn’t.
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I’ve been playing that long. It would be nice to have access. I don’t think that I am any more deserving of Beta access than anyone else. The problem is that a number of Vanilla players seem to think it entitles them to access. Too many players seem to think that the only thing the Beta is about is making sure it’s an “authentic” Vanilla experience. They seem to feel they are the only ones able to find bugs.
It’s a closed Beta. Participants are being selected for very specific reasons. Having an account since Vanilla may not be one of those reasons. In the end, Blizzard decides who gets access, not the players.
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Hey. It’s a good strategy though. If you wanna check something out they want to make sure you’re interested in helping them out as well. It brought me back just in case it selects me. Honestly, I’ve been meaning to check out the latest WoW content anyway. It gives me a perspective of the comparison too.
For example, if I wasn’t playing current WoW I probably wouldn’t have a unique experience in testing oldschool WoW. I remember the nostalgia of it like it was yesterday, and I think an active subscription is a good compensation if you were to help them stress test and participate.
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Simple. There’s a small enough number of spots in the beta, that if they opened it up to everyone people would be more pissed that they didn’t get picked than that they chose not to sub and knew they wouldn’t get in.
Money, with the chance that people buy BFA, so more money. It’s all marketing and cashflow.
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because blizzard is running a business and there trying to make money.
@Title, cash grab and a way to gauge how much desire there is for Classic so they can prepare an appropriate number of servers.
Wrong.
A sub has never been required to play in any expansion or game beta before.
Why is Classic the first case of Blizzard requiring a monthly fee to get beta access? Why are you effectively required to sub to either, A) a game that isn’t out yet, or B) a different game?
This argument of needing a sub to play therefore needing a sub to get into the beta would make a lot more sense if that were the case with ANY other Blizzard game.
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No other Blizzard game is :
15 years old
A subscription based model
Being restored to it’s original state
Needing players who played it 15 years ago for accuracy
Needing dedicated players to test things
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Because gamers have proven time and time again to be vulnerable to gambling, and because there is no one to stop AAA companies from exploiting this lack of common sense, dignity, and willpower.
It’s a predatory practice, and anyone who resubbed for a chance at a beta is prey.
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No reason to get worked into a furor over your inability to early-access the incomplete version of a game that’s going to be launched in full in 3 months. Go have a beer and settle down.
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I’m a vanilla beta, launch account. If I wanted beta access, I’d (probably) have it. I don’t want it on these terms because I find the practice disagreeable and unfair.
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Universal you. Not you you.
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