Here are my exact reasons for quitting raiding.
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Too many dad guilds who are incompetent and can’t follow simple directions. I hopped from guild to guild before I quit because they’re all 8/10. The final 2 bosses are easy mechanically but requires everyone to be good players. Unfortunately people in dad guilds aren’t the best players.
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getting asked to use innervate on healers consistently. I never do, but it’s too annoying for me. It’s not necessarily the healers fault their oom, but the players getting hit by mechanics or not following the raid leaders instructions that cause them to take unnecessary damage. I only innervate myself because not only are balance druids mana hungry, but with the advent of using battle res every fight due to player incompetence means I go oom faster than normal. Meaning I do less damage and can’t keep improved faerie fire up. I only innervate myself.
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my realm dying. I’m not paying Bobby Kotick any more money than a subscription fee. Not paying money for a transfer. Since they didn’t include netherwind on the free transfer list, I am not raiding. Not wasting my time in dad guilds who will be 8/10 all tier.
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people no showing to raid nights. Drives me nuts when people feel like they have the right to just not show up to a raid time they agreed on. The past 2 dad guilds I was in before quitting raiding had this problem. If you no show to raids I don’t like you as a person.
Why am I posting this thread?
A) Because I want to and there’s nothing you can do to stop me
B) Because everyone is basically waiting for Wrath at this point (when the game was good)
C) slow day at work
D) Because season of mastery is already better than tbc classic raiding due to you being able to carry the 4-5 drunk idiots in your raid that you likewise cannot carry in a 25 man. 40 man raids are great!
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This whole “dad” thing is a bit infuriating, just because someone is older than you, doesn’t mean they necessarily suck. I am not that old, but I have played with younger guys than me who were REALLY REALLY bad and played with guys in their 40s that were really really good, in fact I know a guy in his 40s that’s a 2k rated arena player. Someone’s age does not always reflect how poorly they will perform in a raid.
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It sounds like your problems are all actually symptoms of the real problem (being stuck on a dead server).
Dead server > forced to take all the sh1tter dad key board turners or not raid> no competition for raid spots > no accountability > no progression.
There is a reason players are dropping like flies lol.
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Like Blink said. Try transferring to a mega server. The problems won’t magically disappear, but you’ll have more guilds to choose from.
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Plenty of dad guilds sitting at 10/10 for a while now. Your server dying and you not being willing to hold your nose and transfer is on you. Not the perfect fix or answer I’d like to give, but it’s the most practical right now.
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Sounds like you just want a better raiding guild. So go join one, if you even can. The reality though might be that those “dad guilds” are the best you can do. If you can do better, then do better. If you can’t, then you can’t.
Why am I posting this response?
Because I want to and there’s nothing you can do to stop me. I’m also delisting the thread so don’t expect me to see any responses.
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If you were in another guild your innervate would be going to a mage vs a healer… giving away your innervates is what us druids have to do… but the kill time might be faster so you wouldn’t need it so much.
Yes your server dying doesn’t help things with options but transferring won’t fix guild no-shows (which I also think is rude and the guilds need to filter these people out) or the fact that guilds still struggle to get by. These are guild issues more than server issues. It would just give you more guild options though. If you’d rather quit raiding and play SoM or unsub or whatever instead of transferring/rerolling that’s 100% your choice.
I’m assuming you meant dad guilds more like casual guilds, not as a way to be insulting.
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If that’s the type of player you are you wouldn’t have to quit. Most quilds would remove you from the roster. Raids are done by a team and you’re clearly not a team player. Could be you’d kill more bosses if you were.
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Js an innervate to a arcane mage is going to be more valuable than yourself. Innervating yourself is just greedy. I agree heals shouldn’t need it, but there are definitely better dps classes that can use it.
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Dude you said you were gonna quit like 3 times already—just do it already lmao!
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You showed you are trash when you said you hop from one guild to another like thumper. People like you are why guilds have issues staying competent
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I quit because our raid collapsed, but I didn’t continue because I simply didn’t play Classic to face pre-nerf raids. I played Classic to beat what I did not as a kid. Lost most of my interest with these pre-nerf fights. It’s not for me anymore, which is fine.
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LOL. If you hop from guild to guild and all of them cannot get past 8/10 then the only common denominator is you. 
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I’ve noticed a lot of Priests (more than any other healer) seem to need innervate to keep going on most tougher boss fights in “dad guilds”. A good number of them appear not to prioritize/stack spirit as a primary coveted stat (nor spec at maximizing spirit gains), and more often than not, most seem to spam more Flash Heals than anything else in their healing toolbox. I feel like I am playing an entirely different class when I play my Priest with them in raids & they are constantly calling out for an innervate (which I never need on my Priest). So yeah, “dad guilds” don’t always have the best players, even when those same players are trying to OCD min-max “BiS” (per whatever internet guide is mindlessly instructing them) & still not performing as well as a base good player in lesser gear.
yeah just quit
no need for players like this on a struggling roster
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hes more worried about His parse on a KT/Vashj wipe
instead of helping healers or arcane mages so they can actually 10/10
but no
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Most DPS casters don’t have decent Spirit on their gear anyway for innervate to play off of, & in all fairness most non-class/spec specific DPS raid gear drops aren’t even itemized for Spirit either (& more for MP5, if anything). Spirit seems to be the realm of Druids & Priests mainly, & it takes some work for other classes to get it in their stat mix a bit more simply due to the way things are itemized in the game. I’ve have a bit of spirit on my Frost Mage alt gear setup, & she has 60% spirit regen while casting with 30% talent + 30% Mage Armor & never runs short of mana spamming Frost Bolt on even the longest, most drawn-out encounters.
when progressing everything matters
we had a wipe on vashj at 20k hp once
that extra teeny tiny mana on a mage would have been a kill
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