Tbc feels like retail compared to classic.
I just could not keep playing. It’s basically do battlegrounds and arena if you want pvp.
Here is what I loved and miss from classic. Guild vs guild. A large pvp guild could lock down zones. We did it for aq40. It made it a lot harder on horde guilds to do aq 40 with no buffs because they had to corpse run in.
World pvp is simply gone in tbc and halaa does not count.
I will miss classic. Retail is just a better game if all I’m going to do is raid and do battlegrounds. I’m going to play retail
-Anti-flying game design. In TBC, if you have 5k gold you can fly in all relevant content, period. In retail flying has so much red tape that it’s mostly been relegated to an alt catch-up mechanic.
-Homogenized classes. Hybrid DPS specs don’t have all the useful buffs that they have in TBC, and every DPS spec just spams their single-target damage ability. Fury warriors happen to be the best at this, so you stack them to the moon after filling out your 15 healer/utility DPS slots.
Huh? In TBC they homogenized classes a lot - they even homogenized skill trees a bit. The “useful buffs” you mention are an example of this… pretty much every spec as its buff… homogenized af.
I think Classic still has a lot to offer, it’s just to a much more niche community than it once had. Blizzard taking steps to bring the community together would go a long way to providing a space for the Classic players to exist and could potentially give more opportunity to have more potential for some of the activities you’ve mentioned.
Nobody is surprised that most people have moved on to TBC; however, there does appear to be folks still interested in Classic. They just need a way to be connected with each other.
I agree with your criticism of the anti-flight and homogenized classes in retail, but I disagree that Classic is more like retail than TBC.
There was no flight in Classic because the devs just didn’t design the world for flight. The very next expansion was designed for flight specifically in response to player requests for flight.
No one asked for flight to be removed or withheld; no one asked for Pathfinder and no one asked for a devs bucket of chores to do in order to be able to use the flying mounts one acquired over the many years when there were no strings attached to flight other than reaching max level and paying for a flight license.
I thought class builds were great through Panda, but have become boring and unimaginative since WoD. The great pruning in Legion destroyed so many classes in a basic way. Later iterations of WoW had to see the return of many of these abilities (now disguised as “talents”) as if it was some sort of gift, instead of absolutely necessary for class play.
Classic and retail share nothing except the name of the game.
have to think they really couldn’t imagine then just how huge the world would really become, and how necessary flight would really be. And jeesh, imagine today’s game without flight…
I couldn’t imagine considering building raid compositions consisting of a variety of classes that synchronize well with each other, and benefit from each other being in raid a homogenization. But hey, to each their own. People speak with zero sense on this website.
35 orc warriors was way better.
I believe he’s trying to say that if TBC and retail are similar, but retail just executes on the same tenets better, then he’s just going to play retail.
