Unsubbed yesterday, I am just done. Pretty accomplished player but can’t do it any more. Every time I log in on main or alt I just feel the grind isn’t going to be worth it.
**Main reason TLDR **: Quit using RNG as barrier to enjoyment and accomplishment
Ok, I get there always has to be RNG, but the one specific example is my Warrior Alt Legendary. 35 FREAKING Grateful Offerings to get a RANDOM past Memory. I have 10 Open spots left… so it could theoretically cost me 350 Grateful Offerings just to get a memory I want to craft for a Castle Nathria Legendary. That is just absolutely disgustingly ridiculous. Did Blizzard ever do this math? Yes i get I can run CN, but I am talking about their logic on implementation of this stuff. 35 Grateful Offerings for a RANDOM Memory is so stupid. Just let us buy what we want for 35 GO’s… My god, this actually is pi$$ing me off as I am typing this.
Running 10 X 15+ Keys (mostly 20’s+) gets me 3 RNG Items in Weekly Vault at 252 ilvl. Ok, great. I haven’t got an upgrade in over 6 weeks… So each week I took TOKEN’S OF MERIT!
So, the reward for 1 Token is 175 Anima. You get 3 a week so that is 525 Anima.
So spending 10+ hours in a week running Mythic +, getting nothing in the weekly vault, nets me 525 Anima??!?!!???!!!???!!! THAT IS YOUR FREAKING REWARD? I can get 500 Anima in a 3 minute World Boss fight. But I spend 10+ hours and get nothing and this is your reward? It should be 500 or 1,000 Anima per coin. We worked HARD for it and 175 mana is a FREAKING insult.
Now look, these 2 things were just the final straw… I don’t need anima, but it is their reward logic that is so infuriating. I recently transferred from another server where for 4 expansion we were server top 5 Raid kills and Mythic scores and that guild finally had enough and almost every person has quit for the logic above.
Quit using RNG on EVERYTHING as a form of time locking
Have reward systems that actually take into account time/effort
Create More Content (example: M+ Dungeons - 8 for 2 years? Should be dbl that)
Pieced this together while still angry and frustrated - I loved my time until Shadowlands. It has taken every ounce of enjoyment I have had for the game and turned it into unfulfilled reward systems locked behind drip rewarding.
$8million gold that you can’t have btw… It is going down with the Captain!
I logged in to check this as I really didn’t believe it and you are 100% right. Wow, that IS insulting but on par for their loot logic in SL. They have to understand this is just downright insulting… they have to look at their numbers declining and know why. Right?
Totally understand. I tried raising awareness of how bad the gear and loot droughts were at launch, but people were just fine with it.
On one hand I feel like blizzard used their own self confirmation bias to just continue on the path of destroying the fun in the game. They never listen and their phony player council will never produce results.
NO ONE. NO ONE, is talking about this in any conversation about game design. THANK YOU for bringing it up because the truth is… this is the #1 problem they have. For YEARS, they’ve pat themselves on the back with a mentality of: “we did it boys, we made it fun for them. We know better.” which makes it near impossible for any real, significant feedback to go through.
Alternatively, if you’d like to have your gold invested, without outrageous fees that would give a goblin a heart attack, you could open a new account today with the Royal Bank of Ogrimmar. Established since 2012, with Feats of Strength to prove its legacy, I know VERY well the owner of this family-owned bank and can help you manage your account.
I really believe that RNG should give you increased chances at upgrades/uncollected items. Didn’t get a piece you needed from the vault this week? +50% chance at an upgrade next week.
And I know your post is mostly about current gear, but I feel like it should be fixed retroactively as well. Killed the Lich King again and didn’t get Invincible? +1% (realistically, but preferably more) chance to drop next week.
I finally got my AQ gloves after probably 30+ runs. It’s old content, let us get in and get out!
At least extremely reduced chances on previously obtained items. I know they never had that in the algorithm, but it’s really bad getting repeat loot, especially when it’s probably not even Useful.
The game doesn’t appeal to me anymore. It used to be fun just playing, but just playing feels like punishment.
There’s like what…1 or 2 items you could get in your vault that’d be upgrades out of like a hundred+ possibilities? I am utterly shocked you aren’t getting upgrades. Shocked I say.
You know you should read my post in it’s entirety, not skim… if you are going to comment:
Again, read the post… its not about me getting a freaking upgrade, its about the reward system (Tokens of Merit) and them applying that same logic everywhere.
The vault is just straight up irritating to me. Every week disenchant junk because it drops all vers items for arms loot, but I play fury and fury DPS goes up linearly based on how little versatility I have. I like Titan Grip but I can’t get 2 handers from Fury spec loot because it always drops 1 handers. The RNG is very purposefully malicious. I really have zero interest in the game systems as they are now.
I am only able to post because I bought a 6 month sub for 9.0 and I stopped logging in after 6 weeks and support paused my game time. I had them start it back up a few weeks ago so I could see what they done to fix things with a year, and the answer was very little, in some ways worse. What the heck is wrong with being able to do dungeons and get loot? Half the game systems are designed to make doing dungeons irritating, the other half of the systems are designed to make obtaining loot irritating. There’s plot holes and contrivances everywhere in every system that serve no purpose except to make everyone miserable and it caused a mass exodus rather than “engagement”. I came back to a HARD dead auction house on 2 servers that I have 60s on. Thanks Blizz, job well done, Bobby not get him bonus this year.
What exactly do you expect them to give you as a consolation prize that you’d find rewarding?
You’ve hit the gear limit. Congrats. At this point the only point to M+ is for fun and to help people out. Yet you’re running 10 M+ a week and complaining it’s a waste of time. You know you’re not really going to get gear but you keep doing it anyways and complaining it’s not rewarding enough?
I’m just saying if that’s one of your main reasons for quitting and it’s something you could have easily gotten without collecting 350 grateful offerings.
