Why have unwinnable PvP weekly

Like if you don’t have specific pets you just can’t win. You sit in queue for ages then you lose, hours of attempts = no reward

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I believe Gráinne introduced the idea of pets defeated instead of wins. So if you kill 2 pets but still lose, you’ll still get progression toward the weekly.

Also, the weekly reward is comparatively pathetic to other weekly rewards. You could do 2 PPC WQs and get a purple stone. Quicker, and far less of a headache.

Also also, they don’t balance pet pvp, so Weather meta right now is just roflstomping most teams.

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Yeah I literally can’t win, it’s pointless to try and a waste of time to have as a weekly.

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I really sympathise with the queue problem. I do. Depending on your local pet battlegroup, just finding a battle, any battle, is horrible.

I will also suggest that the PvP weekly is a completely silly thing to do for the reward. A Purple stone costs 35 Charms, and you can get that from just 2 world quests, a lot faster and easier.

And PvE doesn’t prepare you for PvP; I’ll definitely give you that. Starting PvP is a whole learning curve in itself. You will take 10-100 PvP battles to get your legs. This is a long-standing problem.

But I have never believed that you need anything special just to win PvP battles. You do need three good pets and the knowledge of how to use them, but there are lots of good pets, and few of them are hard to get or rare. From Xu-Fu’s, here is a list of the current best pets for PvP.

1. Tier


The most overpowered pets right now, excellent for PVP.

Anomalus (//1)
S/S Qiraji Guardling (1/2/2)
Jingles (2/2/) with Toxic Fumes or (1/2/)
Moon-Touched Netherwhelp (1/1/1) with Dazzling Dance, Temporal Anomaly or Moon Dance
Lost Quill (2/1/2)
Anubisath Idol (1/1/) or Void-Scarred Anubisath (2/1/1)
Twilight (2/2/2)
Golden Chirper (1/1/2)
H/P Living Sandling (1/2/2)
Timeless Mechanical Dragonling (1/2/1)
Ichabod (
/1/2)
Violent Poultrid (1/2/2)

2. Tier


Very good pets for PVP.

Fledgling Warden Owl (1/1/1) or P/S Crimson Skipper (1/2/2)
Stormborne Whelpling (2/1/1) or Thunderscale Whelpling (2/2/2) with Dazzling Dance, Temporal Anomaly or Moon Dance
S/S Fiendish Imp (1/1/2)
Fel-Afflicted Skyfin (2/2/2)
P/S Twilight Clutch-Sister (2/1/2)
S/S Jademist Dancer (1/2/1) with Cyclone/Void Cyclone
S/S Lost Limb (1/2/1)
S/S Rose Taipan/Death Adder Hatchling (1/1/2)
Bone Serpent (1/2/2)
Aqir Tunneler (1/2/1)
Mechanical Pandaren Dragonling (1/2/2)
P/P Autumnal Sproutling (2/1/2)
P/B Infernal Pyreclaw (//1)
P/S or S/S Voidglower (2/1/2)
S/S Anxious Nibbler (2/2/1)
Cursed Dune Watcher (*/2/1)

Yeah average is 30mins, and I seem to only get the same 3 people. I have almost no pets made to 25. I don’t do world quests much and when I do it’s usually not the pet ones. I really do not get the chance to play very frequently intervals. I get like 4 days every couple of weeks (average) that I can login

OK, so I finally looked at your pets.

You’re right. You literally can’t win with the pets you have. But you have only 7 level 25s, and one of those is Green.

And it IS disheartening to keep losing hopelessly.

Pick up some of the top pets I posted above either through the Auction House or through the game. Get them to 25.

Learn some of the techniques from Xu-Fu’s team suggestions: https://www.wow-petguide.com/Strategy/5219/Sandstorm_(Shielding)

and youwill do much better.

I am honestly not interested in entirely having to dedicate my in game time just to be able to compete in what would be annoying fights of RNG depending on what someone else picks instead of skill based

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You’re not wrong about that. Oversimplified maybe, but not wrong.

Pet Battle PvP is loved by a tiny minority of battlers, but only a tiny minority. I would love to love it, but I can’t.

If you have so little time in the game, I would not advise you to waste it on Pet PvP. There are any number of better things to do, Personally, the part of pet battling I loved most was my initial working through the Taming chain, and capturing all the wild pets. That journey was amazing! Maybe you can find fun in it as well.

And ifnot, there are many many things to do in the game other than pets (but don’t tell anyone here I said that :sweat_smile: )

There is absolutely no way anyone loves pet battle PVP. I decided to try it today, since there’s so many achievements tied to it.

Queue times are shockingly short, on average maybe 1 minute.
That being said, in 25 games, I faced one opponent that did not have a team composed of Anomalus+Twilight+Trunks/Gnomelia Gearheart
One. And I beat them. I got sort of close with one of the Anomalus teams, but never beat any of them. Eventually I just started forfeiting every round to these Anomalus+Twilight+Trunks/Gnomelia teams, because they weren’t possible to beat with any of the combos I could try for the Family Battler achievements I was working on.

There is no way these PVP pet battlers are having fun. It’s a hundred people playing the exact same comp running into each other over and over and over, and every once in a blue moon they come across someone like me and are probably more startled than anything. I saw different player models with most of the teams, too. What a worthless gametype.

I quit trying with PvP pet battles when Graves came out and was in everyone’s team… I barely have time for WoW let alone another game so there was no point in it for me anymore.

I tried out pet PvP years ago. It sounded like fun. Quickly discovered it wasn’t.

I’m stubborn, and wanted that Stunted Direhorn pet, so finally got my 250 wins. This by finding out what was the current popular meta and then hoping for newbies during Pet Battle Weeks. At least I never stooped to giving my pets names like Yousuck and Heynoob even though came across lot of that sort of thing.

The whole idea of pet PvP seems flawed when you consider the demographic Blizzard aims for with a MMORPG. Young guys. Who just want to win. Adding insane achievements like 1,000 and 5,000 wins just guarantees you’re not battling people who care about the fight, they just want to notch up another win. So naturally they’re going to use whatever super team is current.

Just checked and I now show a 251 win history; no idea why I actually did one more PvP battle after getting the pet. It is most definitely not my idea of enjoyment.

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Anything that involves PvP is going to be inherently unenjoyable because of people like this. When I’m just battling non-meta teams with normal-named pets, it’s actually fun. (You didn’t see me say that, Shenk!) However, when I come across people with rudely-named pets and meta-teams, it quickly becomes awful. And I’m not talking about just because I lose. When I lose in a good fight to a non-meta team, it has a GG feel to it. Like, we both put forth our best effort and they won, kudos to them. Trash-talking, meta-scumming behavior is really what ruins it.

There was one night I had enough of the bad behaviors and decided to do some trolling of my own, went in with 3 Singing Sunflowers…

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Omg, the longest fight I ever had was against a sunlight/photo team. I was being so stubborn about it. The only reason I would have (eventually) won was because I had a Magical Crawdad with Surge + Wish ^^

They forfeited around like round 138? I can’t remember the number, but it was great. :joy:

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Pet PvP has a couple huge problems:

  1. The 5000 wins achievement (and the lesser ones, too). This creates a perverse incentive to run the most overpowered team(s) over and over and over and over again, against the weakest opponents you can find. This isn’t fun for anyone, and it’s a shame it’s still even in the game. It should’ve been moved over to a Feat or Legacy or whatever a long time ago.

  2. Blizzard has given up on WoW pet battle pvp. There are plenty of things they could do to fix them, and to spice them up, but somewhere along the lines it was deemed “not worth the effort.” Which is a shame, cause the basic system isn’t bad at all.