Why have courts?

[Teksuo-grizzly-hills]

i cant help but think bliz shouldve just remained silent until in court.

too many chances for shooting itself in the foot.

the wall of text they popped out feels fishy.

[Timat-emerald-dream]

@Dedeyn-ravenholdt

if there were 10 witnesses to the action though, I wouldn’t need a court to tell me your are guilty.

This is seriously flawed.

So you are saying that if I convinced ten people in a nearby area to claim that they saw you beat me and steal my car then you are automatically guilty?

Eyewitness testimony is one of the least reliable.

[Vulpeslupus-moon-guard]

Hate to say it but Blizzard is screwed they admitted it happened and now they are going down for it.

[Tahbitha-kilrogg]

@Timat-emerald-dream

The state of Cali has made an accusation against Bliz/Acti

Now its their job to prove it in court

That is how the system works.

I dont get why people rush to judgement and automatically label Bliz as guilty and horrible.

Yep, at some point the state is going to have to prove it in court. And if a jury is seated for a trial at some point, they are required by law to presume innocence until proven guilty (if it’s a criminal trial that is, the bar of proof in a civil suit is lower, as was shown by the OJ Simpson case).

However, the public is free to think whatever they want. As they inevitably will anyway.

As for me, I agree that right now, things do not look good for those employees of Blizzard who participated in this behavior. But, if by some chance, evidence comes to light that casts doubt on that conclusion, I hope that folks look at and consider that accordingly. Do I think such evidence will come out? No, I don’t. But I do not know that for sure.

[Alakhai-aggramar (Alakhai)]

@Redfurnace-moon-guard

I don’t think you understand why Cosby was released.

Oh I do. I am just pointing out the silliness of the well it was 2 years of investigation argument that keeps getting thrown around.

The length of the investigation has no bearing whatsoever, let it go before the courts is all I am saying.

[Dedeyn-ravenholdt]

don’t care - I will believe 10 people over a scumbag that I already have suspected of being a scumbag.

[Hamstar-draktharon (Hamstar)]

Yeah a lot of people are missing the difference between criminal and civil suits. Maybe too much NCIS/L&O and not enough real info.

[Deydradis-wyrmrest-accord-1697549]

@Timat-emerald-dream

So you are saying that the simple fact of the investigation being 2yrs long is enough proof?

It’s enough proof to take them to court.

@Timat-emerald-dream

Why even file a case then? Just go straight to the sentencing right?

Don’t be so dramatic.

@Alakhai-aggramar

The pudding guy’s investigation was longer. Remind me where is he now?

He was released on a technicality. Two entirely different cases.

@Alakhai-aggramar

Let the legal process work.

No one is saying it shouldn’t. Try reading.

[Nillah-ravencrest]

not to mention

We are sickened by the reprehensible conduct of the DFEH to drag into the complaint the tragic suicide of an employee whose passing has no bearing whatsoever on this case

so they’re going to totally ignore the fact that she allegedly committed suicide because of all the harassment she received at the hands of activision employees. not a great take. lol

[Dedeyn-ravenholdt]

your argument makes me think you don’t understand why Cosby was released - hint it wasn’t because he was innocent.

[Nihilis-garrosh]

@Dedeyn-ravenholdt

don’t care - I will believe 10 people over a scumbag that I already have suspected of being a scumbag.

Who cares if the scumbag actually did it as long as enough people just say they did, amiright

[Myrklan-sisters-of-elune]

@Deydradis-wyrmrest-accord-1697549

You don’t file a lawsuit after collecting evidence for two years if you know you’re going to lose

Have you ever looked at the docket for the East Texas district court?

[Keydia-moon-guard]

@Gaahr-whisperwind

the accusations are substantiated by a two year investigation conducted by the california department of fair employment and housing

@Emira-caelestrasz

Their being sued by the state of California after a two year investigation I’m going to say it’s true

It’s also worth noting that even if not all of the accusations are completely true, the department would not bring the case to a court if they did not have at least some form evidence they can present.

[Teksuo-grizzly-hills]

maybe bobby’s appearance in some mysterious little black book will resurface. that didnt get nearly enough attention imo

[Hamstar-draktharon (Hamstar)]

@Alakhai-aggramar

Let the legal process work. The OP is not wrong here. The worse of the allegations came from the same people, not the entire company, and thinking that everyone knows what’s happening in a massive corp like this is nuts. Some departments never coincide.

Considering the worst allegations involve very public incidents it would not be a stretch to say every knew this was happening. They also claim that it was very retaliatory to anyone who tried to complain and that was open knowlage.

[Redfurnace-moon-guard]

@Nihilis-garrosh

@Dedeyn-ravenholdt

don’t care - I will believe 10 people over a scumbag that I already have suspected of being a scumbag.

Who cares if the scumbag actually did it as long as enough people just say they did, amiright

If 10 random strangers came together to conspire against you, you are doing something wrong.

[Deydradis-wyrmrest-accord-1697549]

@Myrklan-sisters-of-elune

Have you ever looked at the docket for the East Texas district court?

I’ve seen many dockets and I know county prosecutors and AGs personally in my line of work at the Clerk of Courts. I know exactly how things work and how those people think. Thanks.

[Alakhai-aggramar (Alakhai)]

Bandwagon?

I am bringing it up in relation to the 2 year argument that keeps being used.

This is my issue. Well they investigated for 2 years!!! means nothing. It’s being used as irrefutable proof because of a length of time. The other investigation lasted much longer, and yes off on a technicality I am fully aware, but still valid.

So care to tell me why 2 years matters?

[Nihilis-garrosh]

@Redfurnace-moon-guard

If 10 random strangers

Employees of the same company aren’t random strangers.

[Timat-emerald-dream]

@Deydradis-wyrmrest-accord-1697549

It’s enough proof to take them to court.

Once again you can be taken to court for anything. I could literally take you to court right now for any reason. This proves nothing

@Deydradis-wyrmrest-accord-1697549

Don’t be so dramatic.

What was dramatic? If the fact that the investigation was 2yrs long means they certainly have proof then why even both with the whole proceeding? Honest question. If you really think that is even to assign guilt tell me why you think they should even proceed with giving them a defense?

@Deydradis-wyrmrest-accord-1697549

No one is saying it shouldn’t. Try reading.

Outright they are not you are correct.

But when so many people are quick to jump on the “BLIZ IS EVIL” bandwagon so quickly (like less than what…a day after this report was released) how do you think future juries and judges are going too go if this kind of mindset is fostered?