Why have courts?

[Timat-emerald-dream]

@Azuremi-proudmoore

In the court of public opinion they have already lost.

Perhaps, but that court is easily manipulated and swayed by half truths, harsh words, and woke sentiment.

[Alzaar-illidan]

@Timat-emerald-dream

Again this is false.

They might be lying

or they might not be

You have to at this point believe that both are POSSIBLE

Because of that before jumping to conclusions I think it is prudent to hear what Bliz has to say when they make a formal defense for themselves and THEN decided who and what is a lie.

Why is that bad?

You know you can type in a single line and it’s not complete crap to read yeah?

If you think 3 dozen people who’s only connection is they may have at some point worked at Blizzard are coming out and sharing their own horrors of the workplace or stating to absolutely believe those coming out (again, if you wonder why nobody that is a current employee has come out with a direct statement … have a read into the fears of retaliation from this very lawsuit) are all coming together to attack Blizzard for _____ you’ve reached full-blown crazy.

@Timat-emerald-dream

See I think you are coming from a position not of

“What is the truth in this matter”

but of

“How can I use this to further my political feelings/thoughts/ideals”

Because you keep saying “Trumpian” even though this is literally nothing to do with Trump…the only one brining him up is you.

Read the statement, look at who they hired, reread their statement, read any Trump statement, reread their statement. Sorry I don’t have Crayons with me, I can’t bust it down to any lower level for you. That wasn’t some attack on you, but he absolutely has a certain way of talking & typing and for some reason it seems to be something that spreads within that corner and is pretty obvious to recognize.

@Timat-emerald-dream

I am simply stating my I feel my idea of holding major judgment calls and unsubbing from everything Bliz and Acti related until we get the whole picture from both sides is perhaps a better way of things.

We’ve gotten the whole picture. The only thing left to get is the PR speak from execs that’re trying to save their money maker. Reality is outside of this happening on their watch, C-levels likely had absolutely no idea of most of this as middle-management would have squashed it long before it got that far up as any exec would be afraid of this very thing happening and would have no issue sending someone from middle management packing to save their own money.

But this whole idea that there’s 2 sides here is beyond stupid. These employees coming out ARE Blizzard’s side. Again, even Blizzard has literally put out a statement saying it was “old Blizzard”, but yet the singular person that was named was only removed (well assumed removed, as far as I know there still no confirmation on that one) from the company a year ago. And with all of that, the nods to him in-game were left in-tact meanwhile have a look at how they dealt with Swifty & Quinton Flynn allegations. Really speaks volumes of changed culture, huh?

@Timat-emerald-dream

I will be interested to see this. Bliz has been seemingly losing a lot to FF14 lately so we will see if this is any more of a hit to them. However I feel that in the end this will be settled and forgotten and most who are on here and are passionate about how evil Bliz is because of this will still be playing.

I mean yeah you’re not wrong here, odds are a good amount of those outraged will return. But between the loss of players from the game becoming less fun and these major headlining issues surrounding Blizzard … it’d be pretty stupid to think they’ve got unlimited time to right this ship. Blizzard, and WoW, haven’t been too big to fail for a very long time.

[Timat-emerald-dream]

@Alzaar-illidan

You know you can type in a single line and it’s not complete crap to read yeah?

I know but I prefer giving a new line when I shift between points or during lists /shrug

@Alzaar-illidan

If you think 3 dozen people who’s only connection is they may have at some point worked at Blizzard are coming out and sharing their own horrors of the workplace or stating to absolutely believe those coming out (again, if you wonder why nobody that is a current employee has come out with a direct statement … have a read into the fears of retaliation from this very lawsuit) are all coming together to attack Blizzard for _____ you’ve reached full-blown crazy.

Maybe they are not attacking Bliz. Maybe the things they said did happen but were not as unconsentual. Maybe the “frat boy” environment was simply something workers went along with and only now are they coming forward for w/e reasons (be they just or unjust)

Again I believe in hearing what Bliz has to say on that before condemning them.

@Alzaar-illidan

Read the statement, look at who they hired, reread their statement, read any Trump statement, reread their statement. Sorry I don’t have Crayons with me, I can’t bust it down to any lower level for you. That wasn’t some attack on you, but he absolutely has a certain way of talking & typing and for some reason it seems to be something that spreads within that corner and is pretty obvious to recognize.

So again you are not concerned with what is the truth in this situation you have already woven Trump into it doing some mental self voodoo. And now anyone that disagrees is not someone who might have a valid point or reason but someone who is aligned with “Orange Man Bad” and thus is an enemy.

So you cannot make clear judgement calls since to you this is not a case between Bliz and employees this is a case of Trump vs your ideals.

I mean dude the man is out of office…its ok…you can let it go.

@Alzaar-illidan

But this whole idea that there’s 2 sides here is beyond stupid.

I really hope this mindset stays outside of courts. Right now ignorance is ok as an everyday citizen with an opinion…but if people start commonly applying this notion and it bleeds into the judicial sphere then Justice is doomed.

I dont think just because Bliz is a big company means that when they defend themselves they should not be taken seriously.

Because based on your tone and word choice you seem to have a lot of hate towards big companies. And the simple fact that Bliz is a large company means it is evil to you.