Why Hate For Tinkers?

Seriously…why the hate on them? Is there some info out there that clearly (CLEARLY) states that they would be bad in some way? Whether OP or weak? I am serious on not understanding on what is the issue.

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Because we dont need another class, we need balance to the ones we have.

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Because people would much rather have Necromancers.

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Some people think they’re too silly.

Some people think WoW should be more fantasy and medieval and less technological.

Some people think we already have too many Classes and no more should be added.

Some people think we are close to having too many Classes so adding Tinkers kills their chance to get their favored potential Classes.

Some people believe the Tinker fantasy is already fulfilled by the Engineering profession.

There are many reasons to oppose the addition of Tinkers to the game. And the same can be said about any other potential new Class.

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Not hating on them. Just think we already have them. They are called Engineers.

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My observations from forum lurking:

There’s already a profession that encapsulates the “tinker theme” (engineering)

It would likely be limited to the least popular races ( booo, gnomes. Amiright guys?)

Necromancers/dark rangers/shadow hunters etc. Are edgier, therefore ultimately cooler

Balance issues, “Blizzard can’t balance the classes they do have. rah rah rah, silly Blizzard can’t do anything right.”

I may have missed some reasons though

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Last I checked, Engineers don’t do insane dmg or heal.

What class would you like then? Necromancers we already have. Bards aren’t part of WoW lore.

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yeah people who want ANOTHER class to add to the 40 specs we already have are crazy

give all the current specs a big rework
make them fun to play
bolster their toolkits and make them unique and flavorful

adding 3 more specs that REQUIRE utility
REQUIRE depth
REQUIRE a niche
will more than anything just decimate the already awful class design in place

not to mention all the metas in play every tier in m+ and 20 man raiding would be even more messed up
more classes would just get pushed out of the ‘meta’ if we had 3 more specs added

i dont know about you but i hate that i cant play my enhancement shaman because they made demon hunters and they just do the same things as me but better

‘melee with a purge?’ nah we got a dh
‘melee with a ranged kick!’ nah we got a dh
‘aoe stun?’ nah we got a dh
chaos brand, darkness, and 3x as much damage
means i literally cant play my favorite spec

bay whos been a good enough enhancement shaman for like a decade and is the face of that long running raid podcast ‘finalbosstv’ was forced to play a demonhunter this tier because why would you play enhancement lmao

it’s gotten to the point where melee spots in raids are so competitive if you arnt a rogue you HAVE to bring some form of unique buff
monk? mystic touch
dh? chaos brand
war? battle shout

the classes that dont have one (besides rogue) are pretty much SoL enhance/feral/sv hunter/ret paladin coincidentally all the least wanted and lowest represented specs in m+ and mythic logs :thinking:

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All I’m saying is that Tinkers could have a spec called Ghostbuster in an expac that will be themed on death…

Make it happen Blizz.

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say hit to balance…or bad balance. depends on one’s outlook as always.

Long ago goblin specialization brought the boom. they used to have lots of fun with high explosives if I read right. It got castrated. So now you know why some go lets fix what we have.

As I am sure somewhere out there is a bitter vet who’d, rightfully so to a certain extent imo, be pissed they have a master goblin tech engineer from vanilla who has to reroll a whole new class just to be back where they were like 14 years ago.

the aesthetics are just bad all around.

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Let’s say they do make Tinker…I would love for it to revolve around the “iron” suit like Mekkatorqe uses. 4 specs. A Tank class. The suit would appear bulkier. A spec more liken to rogues. Has a concealment device and the suit is smaller. Healer spec that spews out healing medical mists of a sort. And a long range dps that shoots guns/bombs/missiles at range. Could this be viable for a Tinker class?

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Demon hunters should sacrifice themselves so Tinkerers can exist.

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Necromancers are waaaayyyyy overdue… Technically Tinkers and Dark Rangers would be too limited by race, but of course Blizzard thinks a Tauren Dark Ranger would make some kind of sense. I guess we’ll see wont we???..

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Cute, actually liked it lol.

But…some seem to have tinkerers being ranged dps.

this would be the one area where people don’t hate us. We don’t do rDPS. We just make hate in melee dps realms. oh and we “stole” some stuff from lock.

We didn’t steal them lol. Blizzard got stupid here. I see no reason why locks couldn’t keep the stuff taken.

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Because clearly what we need is yet another leather wearing melee class, preferably with some kind of gimmick to make it totally not like the 50 other melee classes.

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Unholy DK are necromancers.

Kind of a hilarious complaint when Demon Hunters are limited to two races and I can think of at least four Tinkers: Gnome, Mechagnome, Vulpera, and Goblins. Maybe Dwarf and Undead.

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please god

ranged being significantly more valuable in raiding environments and in typical pre bfa dungeon metas makes melee outnumbering ranged already rough

we dont need another melee spec probably ever

they really should have made outlaw ranged when they made sv melee

if they do add a new class i really hope it’s tank/heal/ranged

but even then we have 6 tanks and you can only ever have 1 to 2 depending on content and 1-2 specific specs are always so much better than the others you rarely ever utilize the other 5 this would ultimately just alienate more players

we have 6 healers and you can only ever utilize 1-4 of them at a time
and because metas exist there will always be multiple specs that are left out / a burden to have

examples being guardian druids and holy priests which are more often than not punished for existing and players who enjoy that spec are made to reroll or quit in most metas

adding another tank or healer would only make the list of ‘should quit specs’ longer since the new tank/healer would bump out one of the older ones

adding classes has to be done around raid sizing
adding more specs would require 20 man mythic to be bumped back up to 25 man to accommodate which wont happen

it’s fun from a casual perspective to say “when is more choices ever bad!” but it is bad when there are limited spots in groups and someone always has to be the worst
meaning complete alienation

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skinners are just hunters right?

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Literally will never happen (not to the players’ satisfaction anyway) so we might as well ask for something more feasible instead (such as a new class).

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