Why "Factions" wont end

Because removing “Factions” in wow, may not be as simple as a push of a button on a more technical note, if you observe most of the quests, items, achievements, reputations, and even npc’s.

The Horde/Alliance system is almost hard-coded into most of the features in the game, from vanilla to BFA, if they changed this, this would require a lot of the older content from each expansion to be retooled, do you guys think blizzard would go through all that trouble just to do that?

Scaling already caused some minor problems in a few areas, and they don’t even want to revamp the EK/K.

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They could have already done all of this and plan to implement the new system in 9.0. Nobody knows.

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Anything is possible. We don’t know how long they’ve been planning and developing it if it were to happen.

My theory since this expac has always been alliance and horde will have a rift and you’ll have loyalists to alliance and horde but then those who want to quit siding and join. So night elves plus worgen for example remain alliance and continue to hate horde where human draeni have peace and join with similar view of horde. Or maybe horde splits down all races and you pick. I duno just my rambling ideas and thoughts

Except they don’t have to change any of those things. Blizzard almost never goes back and retroactively applies changes to past content. If they did get rid of the factions now, a level 1 character of either faction would likely still continue through all the old content as if the factions did still exist and nothing had changed.

They would really only have to make the faction change going forward into new content.

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Factions will probably stay. Too much money in merchandise. They’ll probably let us collaborate with one another in group content though.

:woman_shrugging: we’ll see at BlizzCon

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They could keep factions they way they are for all i care…what they need is cross realm guilds… and no not community’s

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I can’t believe so many players want to end the faction war. The faction war is what made the game what it is today, the faction war has been here since the Dawn of Warcraft.

Players wanting to end the faction walls have just as dumb of an idea as turning WoW into an FPS deathmatch game. It doesn’t fit the game no matter how loud you scream.

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Next expansion, they’re just going to go back to the Vanilla situation, where the two sides occasionally team up (like in Silithus against C’thun), mostly ignore each other, while each side has some splinter faction that goes to war over some minor pocket of territory (like WSG or AV) in order to justify some PvP area existing for PvP’ers.

Factions will never end. It’s too central to everything about the game. Pride in the factions… now that could end (or maybe it already has).

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They would have to seriously rework almost all the old content, many of the old reps, and honestly I can’t see them doing it.

Going forward from 120 and above, maybe. Allowing it before 120 would just break the game.

Not that I think it’ll happen, but…

don’t need to rewrite/code things if you destroy the world.

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I don’t think it’s that big of an issue.

The factions would remain, merely the faction divide would be removed.

Already existing quests would stay the same, i.e., Horde players still wouldn’t see any Alliance quests from previous expansions when the storyline was separate. Instead, they would see any new quests starting with 9.0 when the storyline is merged. After all, everything prior to 9.0 is the story as it existed in the past for players as they level up.

Achievements would continue to remain separate. Reputations, etc. everything would remain the same and only change for content released after 9.0.

NPCs would only need to be set to be friendly to the other faction, rather than attack on sight.

What would need some work is dropping the communication restrictions and grouping restrictions but that would seem to be the bulk of the work needed to me.

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After, like, 10+ years of playing WoW, I still have absolutely no clue how people think that is true. I have played WoW for a very long time and literally never have cared all that much about the faction war. Most every raid I have done, most every dungeon I’ve cleared, has had almost nothing to do with the faction war. So much of those instances and so much of each expansion focuses far more on Horde AND Alliance fighting against a third party that I find it incredibly easy to enjoy the game without caring about Horde vs Alliance.

I honestly think people have this incredibly delusional sense of the faction war that causes them to believe it has a far greater significance than it really does. The faction war could end tomorrow and the way I play the game and the way I have played the game for 10 years literally would not change one iota.

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Because we want to continue fielding a CE capable mythic raid team.

Doing so is becoming increasingly difficult alliance side.

We’ve put off a faction swap for a few tiers, but when you spend as much time recruiting as you would at a part time job, only to have the majority of people respond with ‘sorry, no alliance’, something has to give.

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I don’t care what you don’t care about.

The faction war is what the Warcraft IP was created from.

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So instead of somehow fixing the imbalance we’re just going to tear the wall down?

The only way to fix the imbalance is

  1. Give what ever side a better incentive…
  2. Or tear the wall down…

Both have pluses and minuses

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Would you like me to list all the things that were in the game and are now not?

Yes. A big organized list, please.

The imbalance has been there for years, steadily gaining momentum.

I don’t think it’s fixable. They’d have to do something drastic to lure people away from the horde, in enough numbers that it would make a difference.

As it stands now, a CE mythic guild would be stupid to swap from horde to alliance.

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Remove factions and I will quit retail forever. Classic only.

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