Why don't people like Calia?

I originally liked the idea of Calia and liked to ponder her existence in the priest order hall during legion. I found it interesting that she said, when clicking on her, that she’s no longer Calia Menethil.

… then we get this weird version of her forced on us, starting with her acting really stupid in the book.

I am fairly sure that she and Derek are supposed to be some weird replacement for Sylvanas and Nathanos since they likely won’t be right in our faces for a bit. Emphasis on likely… who knows when it comes to Blizzard and their pet characters.

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I like Calia.

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She’s too Alliance-y.

ie “Oh goodness. Mercy me! Heart shaped boxes…” :face_vomiting:

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I feel like this is a pretty common sentiment. Why do characters have to wind up being antiheroes, ‘damaged’, and/or edgy in order to be considered ‘complex’ or ‘interesting’? Conversely, why are the characters who aren’t really any of these things considered ‘boring’ or otherwise uninteresting?

Good example: Thrall vs Illidan. Community perception of these two characters is on virtually opposite ends of the spectrum.

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That’s the problem the story don’t dispute, no one was asking if it wasn’t necromancy, the problem is the source of the magic and the effects of said magic.

Different magics does different effects naturally. The problem wasn’t that she was raised, it’s how she was raised.

The calia parts of this new story is bad. It is addresses nothing but shoe horning her in.

Thrall was never an anti-hero.

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Blizz have made some terrible mistakes; irredeemable ones.

They should have respected that Players love the Lore Characters in WoW, and for many of us this love goes back decades.

They should have realised that their original Lore characters are irreplaceable assets to the game, anchors to hold people’s interest and engagement. Financial power-houses, with the potential to make ongoing fiscal gains.

But they played the Deity, filled with hubris and arrogance they sought to force their playerbase to accept the butchering of these long beloved Lore characters, to forever tarnish what it meant to be Horde or Alliance by their terrible story arcs, and to then think, in their wisdom, that introducing new characters would engender the same love from the playerbase as we had for the characters they so stupidly destroyed.

It doesn’t work like that.

I am very happy to accept and learn to love new characters, but when the original characters have been so terribly written, tortured and desecrated, I just feel resentful.

It would have been better if they had introduced bit characters, and tormented their story lines, while keeping the big money-making, old, beloved characters true to themselves and the original WoW story.

It’s all just so disappointing.

So, while I accept Calia, she just looks like damage control to me. And possibly another convoluted arc to justify the terrible writing that has destroyed the lore of the game I love.

I will probably never forgive the BfA and SL Devs/ writers for what they have done.

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Everything about her looks wrong. Excluding Nathanos’ new body, all other Undead are shriveled emaciated corpses, while she looks like the Stay Puft Marshmallow Woman barely holding it together with a strategic corset. And that Princess Sparklebutt outfit… just no. No thank you. Do not want.

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It’s just butthurt Sylvanas fanboys.

She’s more Alliance than Horde.

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A lot of women adore Sylvanas, and are very angry at how her story was written. Myself, my sister and the other girls in my house all love her, and have for years.

The idea that only men like Sylvanas for certain reasons is not true.

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Fanpeople?

Sylvanas was a good character till rapey Afrasiabi got his hands on her and ruined her. Why Blizz ever put that creep in charge of anything is beyond me.

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Unless you played a priest in Legion and unless you read the novels she probably feels like she came out of nowhere.

IMO she’s also an incredibly dull character.

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Idk why they dislike her so much. I don’t mind her at all but then again I’m not a lore nut.

Calia and the Forsaken are the best examples of what happens when your writers are stupid, woke, and dumb and have no solid direction or care for the game and every piece of lore that happened before her existence especially.

They are also a prime example of what not to do and why people seem convinced that undead elf paladins are even remotely acceptable and that for some reason we need more things to be unrestricted when we do not need this at all. Vanity comes last, lore comes first.

Unfortunately, the writers have no direction and don’t seem to care about anything anymore. Toss it all out for gameplay and vanity, who cares if it makes sense even if that is 100% not how you handle a game at all.

RIP the Forsaken, elven races and cultures, paladins and Druids. WoW seems to lack any direction or recognizable identity, both of which are so unhealthy that it’d be a miracle if the game really did survive much longer.

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Calia gonna rescue Sylvanas from the Maw cause something, something guidance and not fitting in.
Ms. T the Night Warrior Mohawk will get angsty and another batch of crazy rule 34 will pop up with sylvanatics praising Calia.

Calia, and to a degree Anduin in BFA, feel a lot like Alliance saviors thrust on the totally savage monsterous Horde. It’s like the writers think the filthy savage Horde can’t be expected to handle themselves without an Alliance character guiding them.

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I’m kinda neutral towards her, but I can see why Horde players feel upset about having her be part of their leadership. She’s more of an Alliance-leaning character, and would likely be better served as some sort of diplomat trying to mend relations between Humans and the Forsaken rather than having a say in Forsaken affairs. This is especially so because you just know she’s going to lean towards policies that support the Alliance.

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The L0rE! Muh Feeelz! Muh c#ildho0d!

crumples to the floor

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I don’t like her character because they have not shown the actual growth and development IN THE FREAKING GAME.

Everything has been via the novels. Her death, her resurrection, her backstory, NONE of it gets any measurable time where PLAYERS would actually see it. And especially in Shadowlands, the NPC hangs around Oribos and has little to no actual interaction or importance to the story.

She’s not there during the Crown of Wills campaign, she’s not even there when her brother’s final Anima fart gets released at the Anduin battle. She was clearly introduced to replace Sylvanas, but has none of the connection or involvement with the Forsaken up to this point.

Honestly, the reclaiming Lordaeron quest was boring. We knew they were gonna shoehorn her in, why they didn’t build up to it was annoying.

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I do find it ironic in that sense. Carnie and Vol’jin being the absolute voices of reasons to keep the Horde actually level headed and true to being honorable.

But these new writerz and their thirsting for magical mcguffins (not saying mcguffins didnt happen in wow, but not to this point) to push Alliance to be more active versus re-active.

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