I just want to see how high I can push, I don’t even really care if the rewards scale up tbh
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Because there’s really no point - you can’t really make “solo” content very hard or have a point where you cannot win
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???
An absolutely ridiculous statement backed up by what?
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May as well give it m+ scaling style
If someone wants to do a tier 53 delve for fun, let them
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Doubly wrong. The point is to test your character and see the upper limits of what crazy things you can pull off. And you can surely have a point that is “impossible”
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Why don’t delves go higher than +11?
They could make a level 12 but then people would ask “Why don’t delves go higher than +12”. Then they could do 13 but people would ask for greater than 13.
Do you see how this could go on for a long time?
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That’s what 9 through 11 was last season— bragging rights to see how high people could go. Barely anyone touched them.
Also: the higher you go in difficulty, the more unbalanced things get.
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Ya they could just make it essentially uncapped/mathematically impossible after a certain point. Idk the exact amount, but if each level is roughly 25% harder than the last (feels at least in the ballpark), just keep scaling it up 25% indefinitely
The fact that solo content is not hard, had never been hard, and anything that resembled a challenge has been nerfed because people couldn’t beat it on their own.
There’s content for that.
Remove gear adds the same effect.
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Starting off strong, misrepresenting an opinion as fact and then immediately contradicting it.
The Warlock Green Fire quest was considered hard back when it first came out.
As was all the Mage Tower challenges.
You just said solo content has never been hard, now you’re saying when its hard Blizzard nerfs it. Pick an agreement.
Removing gear doesn’t test your character. 
The point is to see the power growth.
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Absolutely nothing. It’s just an elitist mindset. Apparently Mage Tower and Green Fire don’t exist. I have that one on ignore for a reason.
Me? I only just now am able to do 11s. The idea that some of this content is actually challenging for some of us is difficult for a few people to wrap their head around, because it’s not M+ or a Mythic raid.
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No it doesn’t at all. Your logic is so bad it is unfathomable. You can have scaling that approaches infinity. Probably at a certain point it impacts performance too much to be worthwhile but it can certainly go well beyond a simple T11.
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These were nerfed with gear.
It’s never been hard. People “say” it’s hard and then it gets nerfed (Torghast was a prime example - it went through about 4 iterations on the PTR and then changed again last minute [literally like a day] before hitting live).
It does. When you’re fully maxed out on gear, and you’re not able to upgrade any more, how do you challenge yourself at that point? Increase HP/damage via scaling. You can achieve the exact same thing by removing gear and lowering your overall ilvl.
No one has said that some people don’t find it challenging. But as a baseline, it is not challenging. It’s like queued content (normal/heroic dungeons for example, and to an extent, LFR) were made to be nearly infallible.
Solo content is designed to be beaten by a single person. They literally cannot make a mode where someone cannot beat content on their terms. It defeats the entire purpose.
You can achieve the same thing by reducing your ilvl without increasing the scaling, it’s the same thing.
Scaling moves —> that way
Removing gear moves <— that way
End result is exactly the same.
Eh… you really can’t. The higher you go, the more unbalanced it becomes. So there does need to be a stopping point. Can it go beyond an 11? Probably. Though not by much, I’d theorize.
The issue is… it’s not really worth it. People didn’t really run past 8s last season, because you got nothing else out of them. They unlocked what they wanted, got achievs, then they were done with anything higher than an 8.
If they don’t give something, people are more likely not to run them and then they’re just mostly dead tiers that don’t support development time.
Edit to add: People need to stop calling Delves solo content. They are 1-5 players. Which needs to be taken into account for scaling up to higher tiers.
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I don’t know…the Path of Ascension in SLs was probably the hardest solo content ever added to the game…
And almost no one did all of them
Guess i dont know what this is? If it was S4 i dipped on that one so wasnt there for that
God no.
Up to tier 15 or 20? Sure, but no endless scaling. Let that be M+'s identity.
Ofc you can’t lol, the only logical thing to do is give 'em more mechanics.
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It was the Kyrian Special event…and it was brutal. And it was made worse because you didnt play your character
It had like 10 unqiue boss fights and at the highest difficulty had almost no room for error
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Some people can solo an 11 delve with ease and want more of a challenge, perhaps with another track of gear.
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Defeats the purpose of “more challenge” when the point of gear is to reduce challenge