The days of Susan Express spamming trade chat or whispering or mailing about gold selling are long gone… only to be replaced by constant spam of people not even on my server selling raid runs. How is this different than gold seller spam? I can only imagine this will be even worse in vanilla where only 5% of the population actually has the skill to run high-end raids.
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If they’re selling them for gold then thats 100% allowed.
If they’re selling them for real money then they are indeed being banned, but they’re bots, so they just keep coming. Thats why most of them have names like Hidjrmdua.
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I believe there was a time that Blizzard wouldn’t have tolerated it.
The fact of the matter is that now we are paying for hair plugs on a 4’ 10" , introverted, goblin know-it-all
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If their selling it for ingame gold, then it’s fine.
People only run into problems when it’s for IRL cash.
Selling Normal/Heroic runs for gold is how many higher end guilds fund Mythic progression, since it’s quite expensive.
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Gold and real money mean nothing anymore in game… they’re one in the same. I don’t know about your server, but my server is constantly spammed in trade with raid run sellers and, as I mentioned, they’re not even from my server. I don’t see how that should be allowed or how that’s any different from companies trying to sell gold.
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Why would they? Seems like a legitimate in-game transaction to me (assuming of course you’re talking about selling the run for gold, not IRL money.)
Mind you, I’d never do it, but I’m just not seeing the issue with it.
wut?
10 chars
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Being carried is not a bad thing at all. Raiding guilds deserve to get some gold back for their effort. I paid 100k for a carry once and enjoyed it. It hurt no one and I got the moose mount.
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Um they do, we see them all the time coming to the CS forums complaining about being silenced or suspended. Report them for spam and let Blizzard do the rest.
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Because they drive WoW Token sales so of course Blizzard allows anything in the sake of profit.
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So sick of the level 1’s in /2… My ignore list is full but they keep spamming… If anything that should be a reason Blizzard should cancel cross realm mythic.
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Selling them for real money, or buying runs from gold sellers doesn’t put money in Blizzard’s pocket. If you buy tokens and use the gold to buy runs, Blizzard makes $20 per token.
That’s the difference.
The prohibition isn’t against the actual selling of runs via a pseudo pay-2-win model, but against cutting Blizzard out of the deal.
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It basically comes down to they have no way to really stop it, so they would rather people be selling the runs in-game for game money, than through third party methods for real money.
Why should they stop?
I don’t raid. No time. Maybe others out there would like to see game story advance/end somewhere other than Youtube.
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It’s baffling to me why people do this, or why people actually pay for it.
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The rule about selling runs for gold, but not for real money, has existed since long before the wow token was ever added to the game.
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And? They saw a way to make money and they took it. Gold sellers were making a profit, and now they’ve tapped into that market. Now high end guilds get to make gold selling runs, Blizzard has always made sure they had ways to pay their expenses, and Blizzard reaps the rewards from their own sanctioned gold selling.
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If they are advertising runs for real money, then it is NOT allowed.
If it is for gold then that IS allowed.
Valid points. Blizz makes out on the deal, so why ban it. I get it. However, it’s still spam. Constant spam from level ones who are not from my server. I don’t so much have an issue if it’s from guilds on my server, but I suspect that a lot of these runs are by similar entities like gold sellers who pay people to do the runs.
As for people who buy them, I don’t get it either. Sure, it makes sense for a mount. What’s the point of getting well-geared when you don’t have the capability to run a high-end raid? It’s a catch-22. You have good gear now, but you can’t really do anything with that gear because you don’t have the skill/and or group of people to do it with.
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It is different 2 ways: [1] it is game gold, not US dollars [2] is it not paying real money to another business – another website, not Blizzard.
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Ion mentioned this in the recent Q&A. He says it has been happening forever (even back in 2004). So apparently Blizz decided many years ago to allow this (for game gold, not for real money). He points out that many players are not good at raiding but are good at making gold in the game. It is fair to allow those players to use what they’re good at (gold-making) to compensate for their weak areas.
How many thousands or millions of weak players got to go along on a raid for free out of “friendship” or “helping my guildy out”? They purchased their spot with friendship or loyalty. Some players are purchasing it with game-gold. To me there is no difference. Some players don’t have the time or people skills to “get in good with the raid leader”, so they use gold. That’s okay with me and Ion.
- But the spam has gotten really bad lately, so the devs are looking into some way of creating a LFG tool or separate channel for this purpose, to get it off of /2, Ion said.
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