Isn’t it causing the exact same problem that blade dance for dh did? Just a passive dodge chance on a rotational ability? Just remove it and give ww fist stun back.
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The snail named “Turbo” is a snail and doesnt have fists.
Mods…
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ask your mum
Fists of fury is only a rotational ability to either use for one tick to get to use whirling dragon punch, or to channel it as a semi defensive against melees. Fist of fury’s damage currently is incomparable to other rotational abilities in ww’s kit. Just go to the sides or back of the WW while they’re channeling it and you can hit them with a cc, problem solved.
Man a lot of people really don’t remember Blade Dance omnidodge, 50% leech, and mana rift and it shows.
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This is unreliable at best
Unless the ww is keyboard turning, its actually not useful at all. Anyone ww worth a penny will strafe mouse turn to keep the fof cone parry up.
because they just add trash pvp talents left and right
Do not cite the deep magic to me, witch. I was there when it was written.
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Yes, good.
The Mana Break mythic raid boss enrage mechanic still lives in my memories.
Oh you managed to heal through the damage for a minute and now you’re at around 50% mana? Have this 60% of your health bar in one global while you’re stunned gg no re
DHs were so insanely busted in Legion
Probably would need to be an ICD thing, FoF is up way more often than when WW had FoF stun. Seems simple enough to implement though
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It’d be cool if they changed the Turbo Fists pvp talent to be an “on-use” stun enhancement to FoF (your next Fists of Fury stuns your primary target for X seconds) similar to how Sharpen just enhances MS. Make the CD on that version of Turbo Fists shorter than stun DR so it isn’t just no-brain macro’d into every Fists channel, actually had to be used with some forethought to get maximum stun value.
IDK, just spitballing but in full agreement that current parry version of Turbo Fists is just annoying for everyone and needs to go.
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don’t you get a bunch of bonuses if you full channel it tho? genuinely asking
Just gotta put a DN counter in the loop to slow down the proc rate.
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Its a parry, but yes: just make it a stun again.
No, because that was literally an 360° immunity, not just a 180° parry you can bypass with range abilities or still stun through with like Cheap Shot.
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It’s still an overall immunity to most melee damage + a 90% slow built into a rotational ability.
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Huh? I’ve literally seen 7mil+ FoF channels.
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For which you sacrifice 1 out of 3 PvP talent spots, unlike Blade Dance which was way stronger and that per default without any additional investment.
So all I am trying to say is, that you can’t compare the both abilities directly. And to be honest, a lot of talents would need a rework based on that. Why can a lot of classes snare 50%+ by just using damage abilities, sometimes even on white damage? Why can mages do that, even without pressing anything as I am getting slowed when I just incap them for example.
Or why can Assa Rogues additional AoE silence everyone by pressing a damage spell? Or getting an additional bleeding for stunning a target with kidney? Or why do Warriors become immune to any CC by using a rotational ability like Bladestorm? All of that without any PvP talent sacrifices!
So maybe take the whole picture. I do agree that it should be a stun again, but don’t argue like that or remember, that a lot of rotational spells give additional benefits these days, that are often good in PvP.
No clue when you played WW the last time, but definitely not this season. FoF damage is insane with 4 set. Even though I think that 4set is bugged and not reduced by 50% in PvP.
I have no direct evidence for that, but feels like based on my damage logs. It should be a maximum increase of like 40% compared to before, more likely around 25-30% as you don’t have 10 stacks every FoF.
But it was more of a 60%+ buff to FoF in my dmg breakdown compared to before. That would be impossible if it would work correctly with 40% max for 10 stacks.
Are you maybe talking about RSK? That is indeed a CD you only press for the MS effect and to enable WDP.
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Okay, thank you for clarifying. I know you play more WW than I do, and I don’t even stack mastery, but I have like 5mil FoF channels with a crit, and I’ve seen ones over 7 million even outside of CDs.
I think the bigger ones are from full mastery over haste, though, which people seem to be split on.