I liked his post because it’s just simply true that you’re tunnel visioning on enhance vs survival here. I don’t think you have any hidden motives or anything else.
Does enhance not get Ancestral Guidance btw? Genuine question. I really don’t know off the top of my head.
His post literally stated I had a “hidden” motive of making sure survival stays bad.
Yes, its a group wide heal. Not personal survivability.
There is nothing stopping an enhance shaman from using it for personal survivability. I use it that way on elemental so I’m not sure what you mean.
It’s an off-gcd self heal that works off of your dps. No resources, no loss of output.
Because its not even guaranteed to heal you.
And using it as personal survivability is playing extremely bad.
In a 5 man it’s going to be pretty hard not to get healed by your guidance lol
Such a luxury of riches that an off GCD heal is just completely ignored. Must be nice.
Whatever.
Yall dont want honest conversation.
I am sitting here stating you should get both damage and better DR.
Yet somehow. I am the bad guy.
I dont know what else to say to appease either one of yall, since it seems you just dont want suggestions.
Dude, you’re not, I’m not the one trying to say you’ve made this personal or are being bad faith. I’m just noting that there seems to be a minor influence of personal bias in your responses.
Which is also fine, we all do it, and I don’t think you’re a bad guy. Stop.
How am I making it personal, when others are stating personal things about me that you agree with? I am not saying anything personal about you or the OP.
And I am noticing you are being a huge hypocrite.
"Stop making it personal. Even though the OP called out enhance specifically, and the OP regularly makes personal statements about you which are wrong, that I like. You are the one making it personal’
Do you even play a surv hunter? Or are you just pushing an enhance shaman agenda our way? If you don’t play one, how do you have any idea what it’s like? Being able to drop a healing totem to absorb the residual damage, having a 2m off gcd heal that’s nearly as good as the hunter one, and literally scales with your damage, and then having a REAL heal literally whenever you need one. And it can be instant, too.
It’s easy to argue that healing is overrated when you have a LOT of it.
The OP called out everything other than survival bro. This is why I think you are taking it personally.
And I’m done, I’m sorry btw.
lol, this is the whole point. It’s on the list with literally EVERY. OTHER. MELEE. SPEC. At what point did I call it out SPECIFICALLY?
Yes, I have played survival.
What enhance shaman agenda am I pushing when I literally state surv should have more damage and more survivability? I havent asked for a single thing to be given to enhance.
And the OP stated a bunch of negative things about me personally. Which you agreed with.
Edit : Just as an addition. Enhance does not take healing stream totem.
But it is an option if you ever needed it. And FYI, thanks for ruining a potentially good thread by making it all about enhancement shamans. What a waste. And FYI, you are on my ignore list now, so don’t bother, if it’s just more whining at me.
Ok. Lets start over. Remember when I said this forever ago, but I was apparently pushing an enhance agenda.
I strongly believe DRs offer more survivability than self healing. Esp if that self healing requires lowering damage, because people will be less likely to want to make that choice.
I recall pointing out the other day that Shaman are notorious for passive aggressively derailing threads that are unrelated or only tangentially related to their neglect.
I think I’m seeing another example of that.
And I’m not sorry anymore.
Survival is still better than BM.
Remove BM man
Would you like to participate in the discussion, or continue making it personal?
I appreciate how you are honest about not being sorry for coming at me personally, while I am attempting to participate in the discussion, but lets try to stay on topic. 
But harpoon is such a lovely gap closer!
Visually, I like harpoon the best out of all gap closers.