Why does Reincarnate have 30 min cd?

Classes Shaman
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Reincarnate having a 30 minute cooldown makes no sense. Reincarnate serves as a self resurrection, but there are other classes with the same thing for a much shorter cooldown. Warlocks have Soulstone, a self revive that has the versatility to be put onto other players and only has a 10 minute cooldown, Fire mages have cauterize which serves as a death escape on a 5 minute cooldown, rogues have cheat death with saves them from fatal damage on a 6 minute cooldown, so why does Reincarnate have a massive 30 minute cooldown?? Reincarnate should have a 10 minute cooldown at most, especially with how much Shamans struggle with surviving.

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From a PvP perspective will be cheating if that ability had a lessen CD. Actually in Arenas doesn’t work. But if i’m not wrong used to work with a special talent that was removed.

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Warriors just die. How bout dat?

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But, like he said, Warlocks have exactly the same thing on a 10 min CD that can even be used on someone else.

If it was something like:
Reincarnate has a 10 min CD, but only works on the Shaman
Soulstone has a 30 min CD, but can used on others

^ That would make sense

And it’s not the only thing like that on Shamans either. Look at Water Walking and Path of Frost on a DK. Shaman get a single target spell that dismounts you, DK’s get an AoE aura that effects everyone within range, and can be used while mounted.

Just as before, it should go like this:
Water Walking is single target, but can be used while mounted
Path of Frost is an aura around the DK, but requires dismounting to cast

Or just make them both usable while mounted, I don’t care. I’m just tired of seeing two classes with the same type of spell (one class having had it much longer than the other class has even existed I might add…) where one is objectively worse than the other for no discernible reason.

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Soulstone also is not allowed in arenas. Also with reincarnation you ress with a very low amount of health, but with Soulstone you ress with 60% health, and that is a lot.

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The fact that Warlock stone can be used on another player means it often will be used on anther player such as a tank or healer. At least our res will only be used on ourselves so we don’t have to worry about that. Also, not all classes need the same abilities made the same way that would be boring. We have a 30 minute cooldown on res… but we can also move faster in ghost wolf while Warlock shoots flames out their butts and kills them while doing it.

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I am fine with the 30 min cd if they just make reincarnate reset on wipes. Like every other defensive ability.

If not? Then just remove it and give us some other defensive CD.

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I don’t believe reincarnation sets off the shared brez timer nor does it count toward brez count. It’s a freebie for us.

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For now…

I HIGHLY doubt that is intentional. It probably just isn’t a priority nerf right now.

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I’d fully agree with you if it weren’t mostly a quality of life thing.

Playstyle? As diverse as possible, please!
Quality of Life? No one should have it better than someone else.

The only thing Reincarnate has going for it over Soulstone is it’s not-interaction with the Battle Rez counter (which, as soon as someone starts exploiting in Mythics, I expect to see that changed) and the fact that it doesn’t require forethought. It’s just there, regardless of if you initially cast it.

It just doesn’t make sense to me that something that is more limited in application when you consider that Soulstone can be be used the same way as Reincarnate, but on a lower CD, and can be used as a battle rez on anyone you choose, has a longer cooldown as well as a a significantly lower amount of health gained upon rezzing.

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This isn’t a recent thing and it still hasn’t been changed. And the fact that it’s on a 30 minute timer is why it’s not abused in M+. If you use it early you maybe possibly might have it up again later in the dungeon but probably shouldn’t need it anyway that many times. If you die it still runs down the counter even if you can get right back up.

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I meant Mythic raids, not dungeons.

There was a tier either at the end of Legion or the beginning of BfA where one of the major guilds took an abundance of Shamans not for their ability to perform, but because they could just die to a specific mechanic, then Reincarnate.

That was almost certainly not intentional when designing the fight.

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They cant delete it, its what jesus used.

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The spell should really just reincarnate us in a new class or race each time we die. Would be fun :smirk:

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Reincarnate as a butterfly.

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