LFR is for non-raiders who want to see the story and the environment. It’s not a raid. Not really. It’s not first steps to anything and it’s not a learning-to-raid environment.
It’s a story mode scenario, essentially, and I like that it exists. It is not, however, analogous to Normal mode of the same raid.
Yeah I think LFR is specifically for tourism and as long as I don’t ever have to go in there I am totally fine with it being what it is. It is hands down the most miserable mode in the game, though.
There are plenty of people who find a challenge in normal, but get devastated in Heroic.
I don’t see the problem with it. Everyone who only can do normal is now relegated to LFR, and with the stigma on LFR these same people might just not raid or outright quit.
Removal of Normal is never the solution. You may not notice it depending on who you play with, but as a player who plays with people widely across the spectrum of “skill” removing Normal will amount to nothing good.
Then I would argue it doesn’t need loot, it only contributes the the awful power creep and crazy Ilvl inflation in each expansion.
I genuinely enjoy it most of the time. I’ve been kinda scared to go in this tier though due to the horror stories I’ve read. But in previous tiers it’s been a fun way to experience the raid without stress and without having to load up discord.
Did. Still don’t see why you care.
I think I would appreciate it more if I was coming back from a long break and wanted to see the content at the end of an expac, for example. I think it has uses.
Not really. If that’s the issue, then argue for getting rid of weekly rewards that drop Heroic level raid gear. Your odds of gearing out in LFR are minimal, and the item level is fully 40-45 ilvls below mythic. Emissaries are higher item level than LFR.
LFR has no impact on the power creep, and it has no role in the item level inflation of BfA. It just…it doesn’t.
Absolutely. It’s great for that. If I started up a new character and geared up just a little after hitting 120, I’d probably have a hard time getting into normal right now without having connections. So LFR is great to have there as a fallback for when you have no other options.
by power creep i mean the need to have to have 4 difficulties worth of raiding increasing in ilvl with each patch, instead of a 45 ilvl difference between lowest and highest difficulty it could only be 30, still bad but hey keeps ilvl at least 15 lvls lower per a patch.
I personally do not see a point for it but that is based entirely upon my experience. I am sure there are many who utilize. Only Blizzard can see the numbers of people running it and determine if its worth having or not.
Well, lfr could be considered the raiding level for us ‘filth casuals.’ I have not run a normal raid in content in forever, but I’m guessing it has more of the real mechanics involved/teamwork. It may appeal to more casual people that are not gear-hounds.
I don’t know what you are smoking. I have been trying to pug it for 3 weeks and to no avail. Maybe as a tank or heals it’s easy.
Faction swap to horde and message me in game on this guy or my shaman (Nalorakk, also on KJ). We do heroic on alts on Weds night, usually everything but Ilgynoth (everyone hates that fight enough that we usually just skip it). I’ll get you AOTC. Edit: Weds 6 pm Pacific/9 Eastern.
Every raid kill I have done is a pug. Both joining others and leading my own.
My experience is the forums over blow everything way out of proportion.
Do you actually pug?
It’s a great difficulty to learn your guild isn’t ready to raid by a long shot.
Your chances of getting invited are WAY higher if you apply to groups just starting out with 1-3 members.
Once the raid is mostly full you’re competing against a dozen 470s and you’ll never get in.
This. If you just want to hang out and kill ‘bad guys’ and laugh at bad jokes all night, you go ‘normal’ difficulty.
Let alone the fact there is always a group available you can guarantee to be a part of and it will never check if you personally have aotc.
(Spoilers: it’s your own)
I assure you, we do all of that on heroic (and often on mythic too until I annoy the raid leader enough).