Yeah its stupid, I even play the class and fully agree its super dumb, and there were multiple PVP related topics in Beta, everything from nova not breaking to bubbles (absorbs) preventing crits; all of are still in game.
Played a mage in original TBC, and if you even looked at frost nova in a bad way and did not time your shatter perfectly the nova would break. Now you can just noob it up and spam lance on nova because it almost never breaks.
This is how shatter combo’s work in REAL TBC, actually from TBC not a private servers
Level 70 TBC.
Level 80 Wrath
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You answered your own question.
It’s been looked at and it’s working as intended.
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No, nothing is working properly in this version of TBC because its on this dumpy retail engine.
Actual shatter combos in REAL TBC, not private servers. Notice how fast the nova breaks? Its almost instantly; this is why timing was actually important in REAL TBC, where as now any chimp can spam a couple buttons and shatter someone to death without any effort.
Level 70 TBC
Level 80 Wrath
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Right, I’m sure you know better than the actual people that work on the game and have access to the data.
Data does not equal function; but the game launched flawlessly… And nothing should be questioned, and we should just accept broken things how they are.
Hotfixes FEBRUARY 8, 2022 Burning Crusade Classic
Fixed an issue that caused Mother Shahraz in Black Temple and Al’ar in Tempest Keep: The Eye to swing faster after performing a parry.
Developers’ note: This behavior was not true to reference, and they should now behave after parrying as they did in original Burning Crusade.
JANUARY 31, 2022 Burning Crusade Classic
Black Temple
[With realm restarts ] Fixed an issue where Illidan Stormrage would cast certain abilities, such as Enrage, too early in his fight.
Fixed an animation error with Dragonmaw Skybreaker during the quest “The Deadliest Trap Ever Laid.”
JANUARY 28, 2022 Burning Crusade Classic
Fixed an issue where Guild Bank logs were not visible.
JANUARY 27, 2022 Burning Crusade Classic
Player versus Player
PvP faction items now have an Honored reputation requirement (from Revered).
The battleground mark costs for Season 1 gear have been removed.
The battleground mark costs on Vindicator items have been reduced by half.
The amount of bonus honor rewarded from the marks-to-honor repeatable quest has been increased.
The Call to Arms daily quest now provides 3 battleground marks and the bonus honor reward has been increased.
The Halaa and Terokkar PvP daily’s bonus honor reward has been significantly increased.
The Hellfire Fortification PvP daily now provides a bonus honor reward.
Tier 4 and 5 tokens can now be exchanged for season 1 and 2 gear at tier vendors.
JANUARY 26, 2022 Burning Crusade Classic
Serpentshrine Cavern
Enemies during the Hydross the Unstable and Leotheras the Blind encounters should no longer occasionally become stuck in the environment.
JANUARY 21, 2022 Burning Crusade Classic
Warlock
The Black Book and Felheart tier set now empowers the Incubus.
JANUARY 12, 2022 Burning Crusade Classic
After their extended vacations, Fiora Longears has returned to the docks of Auberdine and Ambassador Dawnsinger has returned to her post in Grommash Hold.
JANUARY 4, 2022 Burning Crusade Classic
Clockwork Rocket Bot deaths no longer activate talents such as Spirit Tap or Rapid Killing.
DECEMBER 14, 2021 Burning Crusade Classic
Fixed an issue where players would be saved to Tempest Keep before defeating any bosses.
Tempest Keep and Serpentshrine Cavern are now in their post-nerf state (Original Burning Crusade version 2.4.3).
Attunements are no longer required to gain entry into Tempest Keep and Serpentshrine Cavern.
Lady Vashj’s bridge console in Serpentshrine Cavern can now be activated without having to defeat any other bosses.
The doorway to Keal’thas Sunstrider’s room is now immediately open without needing to defeat other bosses.
DECEMBER 3, 2021 Burning Crusade Classic
Player versus Player
Greater and Lesser Rune of Warding no longer activate in the arena if applied before entering.
NOVEMBER 10, 2021 Burning Crusade Classic
Fixed an issue where players wouldn’t get taken to the Twin Spire Ruins graveyard in Zangarmarsh if they had taken control of it before entering a Coilfang Reservoir dungeon.
NOVEMBER 9, 2021 Burning Crusade Classic
The Botanica, The Mechanar, and Arcatraz dungeons now require Expert Riding skill to enter.
Fixed an issue where multiple spectators could not join the queue for a Spectator Match War Game.
Fixed an issue where Poison Cleansing Totems from Horde Shaman would dispel 2 stacks of poison instantly when used, instead of the intended 1 stack.
Fixed an issue where a player that was attacked by a Rogue that immediately vanished after would sometimes drop out of combat much quicker than intended.
NOVEMBER 3, 2021 Burning Crusade Classic
You can now report players from the /who menu.
Fixed an issue where an extra confirmation pop-up would appear when entering a War Game.
Fixed an issue where keybinds were not correctly loading for the War Game Commentator User Interface.
NOVEMBER 2, 2021 Burning Crusade Classic
Fixed an issue where players who accepted a battle resurrection into a raid boss encounter after releasing their spirit could be teleported to their Hearthstone location.
NOVEMBER 1, 2021 Burning Crusade Classic
Fixed an issue with the quest “Helboar, the Other White Meat” that caused an extra Tainted Helboar Meat to be consumed.
OCTOBER 12, 2021 Burning Crusade Classic
All “pre-made” groups may now queue for Battlegrounds. Grouped players will primarily face opponents who queued in groups of similar sizes.
Developers’ note: With this change, the matchmaker will now match raid groups of 6 or more players against at least one group of 6 or more players. If the total number of players in your raid is smaller than the maximum size of the Battleground, the matchmaker will automatically fill your side with other groups or individuals. If there are no large pre-mades in the queue, party groups of 5 or fewer players will be placed against other parties of 5 or fewer players. Queuing alone or in small parties will not guarantee an opposing team with no large pre-mades.
OCTOBER 4, 2021 Burning Crusade Classic
Brewfest is again up and running on all realms, and will end at 23:59 server time tomorrow, October 5.
Developers’ note: We initially set up Brewfest 2021 in Burning Crusade Classic to run for the same duration as it ran in 2007 in original Burning Crusade, but we’ve decided to bring it back for another day.
Hunter
Feeding pets Sporeling Snack and Kibler’s Bits no longer generates threat.
SEPTEMBER 28, 2021 Burning Crusade Classic
Fixed an issue where Lady Vashj would sometimes evade when backing up into the shield generators around her encounter area.
SEPTEMBER 27, 2021 Burning Crusade Classic
[With realm restarts ] Spell Haste now lowers the global cooldown (GCD) to a minimum of 1.0 second (was 0.75 seconds).
Developers’ note: This hotfix is intended to bring the behavior of the GCD in line with version 2.4.0 of Burning Crusade, which the gameplay conditions of Burning Crusade Classic 2.5.2 are based on. Due to a bug in the original 2.4.0 code, players with high Spell Haste in original Burning Crusade were sometimes able to cast certain spells less than second apart, and they would also sometimes be delayed to over a second, based on how their actions were lining up with the server’s tick rate. We’ve decided that the fairest and most accurate thing we could do is to replicate the intent of the original game and enforce that Spell Haste cannot reduce the GCD below 1.0 second.
SEPTEMBER 23, 2021 Burning Crusade Classic
Items that are disenchanted should now be available on the Item Restoration support page to self-restore, as long as the materials gained are still present.
Creatures and NPCs
Some missing NPCs around the world are now visible again.
Dungeons and Raids
Fixed an issue where enemies, such as Kael’thas Sunstrider and Lady Vashj, could wipe threat from their primary target after mind controlling players.
Quests
Fixed an issue preventing Druids in Flight Form from using Skyguard Bombs during the “Bombing Run” quest and using Skyguard Blasting Charges during the “Fires Over Skettis” quest.
SEPTEMBER 21, 2021 Burning Crusade Classic
The Shartuul’s teleporter event has been enabled once again.
Fixed an issue where some bosses in Serpentshrine Cavern and Tempest Keep were missing certain items from their loot table.
Fixed an issue where Horde characters weren’t automatically barking when riding a ram through Orgrimmar for the Brewfest quests “Bark for T’chali’s Voodoo Brewery!” and “Bark for Drohn’s Distillery.”
Fixed an issue during “Terokk’s Downfall” that prevented Skyguard Ace from casting Skyguard Flare.
Fixed an issue preventing some players from using Skyguard Bombs during the “Bombing Run” quest.
SEPTEMBER 16, 2021 Burning Crusade Classic
Fixed an issue that prevented the pop-up notice that is displayed when a Battlefield is ready from hiding when you leave the queue.
Fixed a sound issue when riding ram, horse, talbuk and deathcharger mounts.
SEPTEMBER 15, 2021 Burning Crusade Classic
The Shartuul’s Transporter event has been temporarily disabled, due to a bug.
Developers’ note: We expect to have it fixed in a few days, and we’ll post an update here when we do.
AUGUST 6, 2021 Burning Crusade Classic
The Midsummer Fire Festival has been configured to run for 16 days, in order to give players a little extra time to complete its many quests. This means that Burning Blossoms, which expire after being held for 14 days, may disappear if they were collected in the first two days of the event and then never spent.
AUGUST 4, 2021 Burning Crusade Classic
Midsummer Fire Festival
“A Thief’s Reward” is now available after returning the flames of all major enemy city’s bonfires.
JULY 26, 2021 Burning Crusade Classic
Player versus Player
[With weekly maintenance in each region ] The formula for Arena Points has been adjusted to increase Arena Points awarded each week. This will equate to approximately 100 additional points per week for most 5v5 teams, about 88 additional points for most 3v3 teams, and about 76 more points for 2v2 teams. Teams near 1500 rating will get more, and the curve still tapers to the same maximum as before.
Developers’ notes: In original Burning Crusade in 2007, players could expect to receive 450-500 Arena Points per week by playing at least 10 matches and winning more than 50% of the time. At that time, a team who lost most of their games could expect to get about 300 points per week. Starting from a team rating of 0 has created a points-per-win curve that has been significantly below that, so we’re raising the point floor to compensate for the additional time needed to raise your rating. With this change, all 5v5 teams over 100 rating should get at least 300 points per week.
JULY 15, 2021 Burning Crusade Classic
The Hellfire Peninsula buffs Nazgrel’s Fervor and Trollbane’s Command are no longer removed upon entering a Hellfire Citadel dungeon.
JULY 6, 2021 Burning Crusade Classic
“Tear of the Earthmother”, “The Lexicon Demonica”, and “Underworld Loam” quests can now be completed on Heroic dungeon difficulty.
The Shattered Halls
Fixed an issue where Warchief Kargath Bladefist would not cast Blade Dance in certain situations.
JULY 1, 2021 Burning Crusade Classic
You must be level 65 or higher to enter The Shattered Halls or The Steamvault.
JUNE 28, 2021 Burning Crusade Classic
[With regional restarts ] Feral Druid Energy Regeneration now increments on a fixed 2 second loop, independent of other factors such as changes to mana or health regeneration rates, or shifting between forms.
Developers’ note: With careful timing, Cat Druids should be able to receive their full 20 Energy regeneration tick immediately after shifting. For more information, see our full post about this change here .
[With regional restarts ] Team ratings should now more closely follow personal rating changes on Arena teams.
JUNE 23, 2021 Burning Crusade Classic
Fixed an issue where bonuses to a specific class spell – such as the 2-piece Incanter’s Regalia set bonus – would affect a different spell when applied to another class.
Mages spellstealing Shadow Trance from a Warlock no longer makes Fireball instant cast, true to reference behavior.
JUNE 21, 2021 Burning Crusade Classic
A new upgrade to Auction House service responsiveness was implemented for all realms.
Players who have completed the Trials of the Naaru without receiving the Tempest Key can now obtain one by speaking with A’dal in Shattrath City.
JUNE 18, 2021 Burning Crusade Classic
[With regional restarts ] Area 52 Bruisers are no longer shirking their job duties and will now intervene to break up nearby fights.
[With regional restarts ] Fixed an issue where repeatedly clicking a Soulwell would unintentionally consume additional charges under certain conditions.
Fixed an issue where a Priest’s Prayer of Mending would persist on the target if it fails to find a new target to jump to, true to reference behavior.
Activating Prismatic Sphere’s cooldown should no longer put enchanting materials on cooldown.
Fixed an issue where Socrethar was not made vulnerable by Voren’thal’s Presence for “Turning Point.”
The Aldor will now come to your aid during the quest “Deathblow to the Legion.”
Fixed an issue where Halaa Battle Tokens were not granted as expected.
Fixed an issue where Warchief Kargath Bladefist could charge outside of his area and reset the encounter.
JUNE 17, 2021 Burning Crusade Classic
Warlocks are no longer revealed on the arena frames if they sacrifice a demon before the gates have opened.
Magtheridon’s Lair
Fixed animation issues with Blast Nova and Quake.
Blast Nova now always has a raid warning when cast.
Blast Nova will no longer be immediately recasted if he was interrupted before he began channeling.
Developers’ note: Magtheridon’s Blast Nova was set up in original Burning Crusade in a way that it was possible for players to see a raid warning for an attack that would never come, or for Mag to use an ability without warning. These misbehaviors were recreated in Burning Crusade Classic as we matched the boss configuration with our pre-nerf reference. With the fixes above, we’ve made it so that Blast Nova is used consistently after a raid warning, and no longer fails to be put on cooldown if interrupted during its cast.
Karazhan
Fixed an issue where Shade of Aran’s Dragon Breath was dealing more damage than intended.
Fixed an issue where the title “Champion of the Naaru” would be repeatedly granted to players who had earned it.
JUNE 15, 2021 Burning Crusade Classic
Short term buffs are no longer removed upon the Arena gates opening, true to 2.4.3 reference.
Fixed an issue where the events from “Deathblow to the Legion” Netherstorm quest could fail to progress.
Paladins who are defeated in Netherstorm or Tempest Keep dungeons and resurrect automatically at the Spirit Healer will once again generate threat with their periodic abilities.
Fixed an issue where weapon master’s would also teach the Crossbows skill when learning the Bows skill.
Fixed an issue where Priest’s Shadowfiend would attack enemies that are crowd-controlled.
Fixed an issue where some dungeons and raids were not applying PvP rules on PvP servers, causing PvP flags to incorrectly expire.
JUNE 14, 2021 Burning Crusade Classic
Priest’s Prayer of Mending now displays on the Raid-style party frames.
The Alliance now receive the correct amount of bonus honor in Eye of the Storm.
Flag captures in Eye of the Storm no longer grant bonus honor, true to 2.4.3 behavior.
The Jewelcrafting design patterns for Don Julio’s Heart and Crimson Sun are now available on Consortium vendors.
Fixed an issue where Rested would sometimes become active outside of a rest area.
Fixed an issue where quest givers can fail to offer the Call to Arms daily if it was for Arathi Basin.
JUNE 11, 2021 Burning Crusade Classic
Implemented settings changes intended to lower the time it takes to search the Auction House.
Players who list, bid, buy out, or cancel a very large number of auctions may now incur a delay between consecutive actions.
Black Qiraji Resonating Crystal is no longer on the global cooldown.
The events told in Medivh’s Journal for “The Master’s Terrace” can now be replayed.
Fixed an issue where Nightbane can exit combat during the Karazhan raid encounter.
JUNE 10, 2021 Burning Crusade Classic
Rift Keepers in The Black Morass once again grant Keepers of Time reputation up until Exalted.
JUNE 9, 2021 Burning Crusade Classic
Mordenai has arrived in the Netherwing Fields of Shadowmoon Valley with a request for your kindness.
Fixed an issue where Shade of Aran in Karazhan can fail to face his target when casting Dragon’s Breath.
JUNE 8, 2021 Burning Crusade Classic
Players can now obtain pets from the Original World of Warcraft Collector’s Edition from Landro Longshot in Booty Bay if the license is on their account.
Prayer of Mending can no longer bounce to targets outside of the priest’s group.
Mage’s Arcane Blast cast time reduction is now effective immediately with subsequent casts.
Feign Death will no longer drop the Hunter from combat during raid encounters, consistent with the mechanics in the original Burning Crusade. Resetting raid encounters using Feign Death is still possible.
Felbane Slugs and Hellfire Shot are once again available from ammunition vendors.
Fixed an issue where the Communal Idol of Life relic was not increasing Druid’s Rejuvenation periodic healing.
Fixed an issue where the Karazhan Chess Event can fail to give loot upon defeating the encounter.
Shattrath daily quests that are actively offered by the Consortium are now shareable.
Fixed an issue where some WoW Classic items were granting stat values of 1 instead of the stats displayed on their tooltips.
Fixed an issue where WoW Classic items would sometimes drop with unusual stats, or stats that did not exist on those items in the original game.
JUNE 7, 2021 Burning Crusade Classic
[With regional restarts ] The Auction House has been upgraded to improve performance.
[With regional restarts ] Commander Ameer in Netherstorm has salvaged a prison orb from his last scouting mission and could use your help retrieving a key to unlock it.
[With regional restarts ] Nether-Stalker Mah’duun in Shattrath now offers a non-Heroic daily dungeon quest.
Warchief Kargath Bladefist in The Shattered Halls once again has a delay in between charges of his Blade Dance.
Warlock’s Inferno once again stuns and deals damage to enemies in the area.
Engineering Schematic: Elemental Seaforium Charge is now available from Consortium faction vendors.
The reagents required for the following enchants have been adjusted from pre-patch content to level 70 content:
Enchant Gloves - Threat
Enchant Gloves - Superior Agility
Enchant Cloak - Greater Fire Resistance
Enchant Cloak - Greater Nature Resistance
Enchant Cloak - Stealth
Enchant Cloak - Subtlety
Enchant Cloak - Dodge
Fixed an issue where the Ring of Blood event in Nagrand would sometimes stall or fail to progress.
Fixed an issue where credit was not being granted for killing Crazed Colossus in “Dissension Amongst the Ranks.”
JUNE 4, 2021 Burning Crusade Classic
Honorable Kills now display an icon, as intended.
A “?” symbol is again displayed when talking to an NPC about a completed or in-progress quest.
Items with the random suffixes +healing, +spell damage, +elemental spell damage, +elemental resistance, +mana per 5 sec., and +health per 5 sec. now appropriately apply those effects to the player-character when equipped.
The Alliance Brigadier General in Shattrath once again offers the “Concerted Efforts” quest.
Fixed an issue that caused combat pets to sometimes activate a global cooldown when trying to use an ability.
Fixed an issue that caused lighting issues, such as an unintended shimmering on the ground, for some players.
Fixed an issue that caused Fishing lines to disappear.
Fixed an issue where Quagmirran in The Slave Pens may fail to path out of the water.
Fixed an issue where Nightbane’s Charred Earth ground visual effect was not visible when Projected Textures is disabled in the System Settings menu.
JUNE 2, 2021 Burning Crusade Classic
Classes
Shaman
Shaman that were boosted with a Character Boost now have Rank 1 of Healing Stream Totem, Searing Totem, and Stoneskin Totem.
Player versus Player
Hellfire Superiority, Twin Spire Blessing, and Blessing of Auchindoun once again apply within instances if your faction has won the PvP objectives for that zone.
JUNE 1, 2021 Burning Crusade Classic
Auction House
Fixed an issue that temporarily caused deposit fees to be 3x lower than they were in original Burning Crusade.
Classes
Mage
Blizzard once again has a chance to activate Enigma’s Solitude and Arcane Concentration on cast.
User Interface
On PC and Mac, players can now utilize SSAO (Ambient Occlusion).
MAY 28, 2021 Burning Crusade Classic
Auction House
Auctions are now sorted by buyout price instead of bid price by default.
The Gem and Quest categories are no longer missing.
The Consumable, Trade Goods, and Miscellaneous categories now expand.
The Reset Filter button has returned
Quests
Escort quests will now recognize that the quest limit has been increased to 25.
User Interface
Zone names on PvP realms will once again appear in their appropriate text color when they are Alliance, Horde or Contested Territories.
Mac users can once again key bind the Command key.
MAY 27, 2021 Burning Crusade Classic
Classes
Fixed an issue where Dodge Rating was not affecting the player’s chance to dodge attacks.
Rogue
Cheap Shot can once again be used on a target affected by Kidney Shot.
Dungeons and Raids
Naxxramas
The damage from Shadow Fissure now properly aligns with the visual effect.
Professions
Leatherworking trainers have remembered how to craft Dark Leather Boots and will now teach aspiring leatherworkers the recipe.
Quests
Fixed an issue where Warbringers would sometimes not offer a Call to Arms daily quest to players if they completed a Call to Arms daily quest the previous day.
Fixed an issue where the Filled Shimmering Vessel for the Horde quest “Claiming the Light” could not be obtained if your inventory is full.
MAY 25, 2021 Burning Crusade Classic
Classes
Fixed an issue where boosted character skills weren’t leveled up.
[NA realms only ] Cloned characters with unclaimed mail in their mailbox can now be deleted.
Warrior
Bloodthirst once again is affected by modifiers to Attack Power such as Improved Berserker Stance or Unleashed Rage.
Dungeons and Raids
Fixed an issue where Zul’Gurub and Onyxia raid reset times were not displaying correctly.
Quests
Hammertoe Grez once again respawns after players turn in “Amulet of Secrets” and accept “Prospect of Faith.”
Fixed an issue where Tzerak would sometimes not spawn for the Alliance quest, “Signs of the Legion.”
MAY 24, 2021 Burning Crusade Classic
Classes
Shaman
Threat generated by Earth Shield is once again attributed to the target of the aura.
Dungeons and Raids
6 to 10-member parties can enter Blackrock Spire once again.
Fixed an issue that caused Sayge’s Fortune to be incorrectly removed when entering level 60 raids.
Quests
Players should now be able to loot the Strange Lockbox in the druid quest, “Trial of the Sea Lion.”
MAY 21, 2021 Burning Crusade Classic
Classes
Hunter
Hunters that were boosted with a Character Boost now learn Dual Wield. Those that do not have it can learn it by entering Stormwind or Orgrimmar.
Eagle Eye now correctly has an unlimited range.
Shaman
Grounding Totem will no longer remove the Songflower Serenade buff.
Far Sight now correctly has an unlimited range.
Player versus Player
Honor gained from all sources is now doubled for the rest of the pre-expansion update timeframe.
Eye of the Storm can no longer be chosen for the daily Call to Arms battleground quest during the pre-expansion update.
Fixed an issue where losing a base in Arathi Basin wouldn’t teleport Horde characters that were waiting to respawn at that base.
Quests
Quest items that are placed in the Keyring when looted will now mark quest objectives as complete.
A Sunhawk Spy for the quest “Blood Watch” is so good at hiding, that he’s buried himself beneath the ground. We brought him back into the sun where he belongs.
Fixed an issue where “The Ravaged Caravan” could not be turned in.
User Interface
The Auto Attack/Auto Shot combat option has returned to Interface Options.
Fixed an issue where cross-realm party invitations were incorrectly enabled.
Fixed an issue where raid members were not appearing as the correct color on the minimap.
World
The trees outside of Stormwind City are once again visible from inside the city.
MAY 20, 2021 Burning Crusade Classic
Dungeons and Raids
Naxxramas
Heigan the Unclean will no longer play dirty and teleport the tank.
Heigan the Unclean has returned to summoning the correct Plague Wave after the encounter has been reset. How forgetful of him…
Temple of Ahn’Qiraj
Fixed an issue where C’Thun’s Digestive Acid was doing more damage than intended.
Professions
Leatherworking trainers have skilled up and are once again masterful enough to train Artisan Leatherworking to players.
Quests
[EU realms only ] Fixed an issue where the Burning Crusade Collector’s Edition quest “A Special Thanks” was not appearing for EU players.
Fixed an issue where the “Marauders of Darrowshire” quest items weren’t properly created when using the Mystic Crystal when there is 1 Fetid Skull in the player’s inventory.
MAY 19, 2021 Burning Crusade Classic
Classes
Character Boosted Warlocks will now have pets that gain their Grimoire spells.
Druids that have been boosted with a Character Boost now learn Hurricane Rank 2. Those that do not have it can learn it by entering Orgrimmar, Stormwind, or Thunder Bluff.
Dungeons and Raids
Naxxramas
Fixed an issue where Sapphiron’s Frost Aura dealt double damage.
Items and Rewards
Supercharged Chronoboon Displacer is no longer removed upon entering an arena.
The Reawakened Phase-Hunter mount now has the correct level requirement of 30.
Player versus Player
[NA realms only ] The Alterac Valley Warmasters have returned to their stations.
Fixed an issue that caused Battlegrounds to award more Bonus Honor than intended.
Professions
Enchant Chest: Greater Stats once again increases stats as expected.
Quests
Fixed an issue where the “Crown of the Earth” quest could not be completed.
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Yeah i remember. Never played a mage but fought tons of them in BG’s. Usually I could shift out of nova before lance hit, but when it did, it broke immediately. Not saying that its not broken, but to add to it, getting ‘nova’d’ just by attacking them and it not breaking is part of it.
i remember it proccing very often in original tbc as well. mine on my warrior does not proc that often, however. /shrug
what gets me evry time is the 10% chance to proc impact stun off fireblast
occasionally play fire and you would not believe the number of people who get stunned on my shield… its so silly.
No, no, no. One person’s anecdotal evidence and ignoring everything to the contrary supersedes Blizzard’s ability to look at the old client and compare.
People have been misremembering things since the day Classic launched. This has been proven again and again and again.
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Mages being broken in a way that works for them? Isn’t that standard operating procedure?
Nah, they have been playing on more accurate private servers that were copies of the og game using the original client. The Vanilla, TBC and Wrath private servers excluding the boss stuff is actually really really close to perfect.
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Why? Because barely anyone is playing pvp seriously. TBC arena meta is such a joke that people just opt out of it entirely.
This is true. But that’s not a good argument in general because the community has also remembered many things accurately. So at what point do you say one out weighs the other? It’s very easy to point at inconsistencies in human memory and by doing so you over look where memories are being applied accurately.
Your argument should consist of proof as to why the memory is false. If you cannot do that, then you have essentially said nothing. You’ve only created doubt without evidence or merit.
Using your logic, nothing ever referred to as a memory can be trusted and this isn’t a good approach when telling somebody they’re wrong.
We do care
We gave up when it wasn’t fixed for the entirety of season 1 & 2.
I didn’t play pvp in og tbc, but after watching your video, mage makes a lot more sense balance wise. Because with how it is right now novas an expected 4-6k worth of ice lances even if I’m counter gearing RM @370 resil.
Härland:
Nah, they have been playing on more accurate private servers that were copies of the og game using the original client. The Vanilla, TBC and Wrath private servers excluding the boss stuff is actually really really close to perfect.
This is such a joke in all honesty and just shows that you either A.) Have never played on a private server before or B.) are lying straight through your teeth.
Pservers run based off backported emulation software, and the emulation its based off of (ex. ManGOS) is riddled with bugs. Every pserver has quite a massive bug report list, and many of those bugs remain unfixed or ignored entirely. A majority of the fixed bugs are based off of “guessing” what the “intended behavior” was supposed to be, based entirely off of anecdotes: old wowhead comments, thottbott comments from the internet archive, old wowwiki edits, etc. But make no mistake, the servers still do not run anywhere near perfect, nor anything like WoW back in the day on the original client did.
I mean, take a look at the largest, most successful wotlk pserver (that I won’t name). It’s a bug-ridden mess, with many of those bugs being near a decade old and entirely ignored. Sometimes the devs there are nasty af about it too. It’s just a cash-cow for them because people buy ICC gear/Shadowmourne and pvp with it.
25 points deep in a tree better proc a lot!
Theres not. Theres no evidence of any of it. Pvp happened and theyre salty about it… so theyre blaming it on “bugged mechanics” rather than their own skill, or pack thereof.
