Why does no one care about all of the bots in Legion/BFA zones?

500 threads a day about multiboxers but barely a word on the armies of bots that pollute these zones. I’m talking about the ones in drustvar, surumar, azsuna, etc. You can go to these zones at pretty much any point of the day and there are teams of bots EVERYWHERE farming the same mobs. I know for a fact that they aren’t boxers because boxers respond to whispers and you can inspect these guys and see that they only have a few hundred achievement points. Something really needs to be done to ban them faster.

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Multiboxers and loads of bots give Blizzard money :slight_smile:

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The one tragedy of the WoW token is that bot networks are a lot easier to keep afloat without real world currency being put into it.

You’re gonna always see bots, unfortunately.

The anger over boxing has nothing to do with the integrity of WoW. It’s just people getting mad that someone else is doing everything in a faster and more efficient way than them… LEGALLY. They see some guy with 10 druids flying around and realize he’s making 10x more gold than them which leads to a lot of salt. It’s the same reason you see threads whining about players who sell carries for gold and about goblins who domineer over the auction house. People hate it when someone is doing better than they are.

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I’ve never witnessed anything like what you describe.

What mobs are they farming so I can go see what you’re talking about?

What achievements do these bots have?

It doesn’t really bother me since i know some gold sellers really need that money to survive :pensive:

I like to give them names.

Like Bob, Jimmy, Joe, Bob2…

It makes me happy.

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Don’t be so cynical. Blizzard doesn’t want money from account thieves.

I’d call you naive but your hat is too cute.

Actually, I care a whole lot about BOT’s ruining my game fantasy. The fact that Blizzard does little to nothing about any of it is one of the top 5 reasons why I’ve cancelled my account.

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yeah… those 75,000 accounts they banned 3 months ago, shows they do nothing.

:roll_eyes:

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I’m sure many of us care but there is only one real thing we can do about it (unless you are on warmode and seeing it, of course) and that is to report them.

It works and they do listen and respond, I know that from personal experience. Certainly many will still come back because its proven to be a very lucrative way of making money. While people go outside the game to buy gold, it always will be. So one of the real issues here is not just the bots, but the players who buy gold. If they didn’t buy gold then bots would have no reason to function.

I acknowledge they “try” but this problem has persisted for over a decade. My opinion is if they really wanted to stop BOTing they would have done it by now. I’m not saying the solution is easy but its their game, and only they can manage how players interact.

i’m not sure how you think this is even possible.

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The same mentality that phone game players have are now coming into pc games. Apathy about systems creeping in is just what development want for this game. Next will be 20 dungeons a day. If you want to do more add the 10 dollar wow battle pass . Of course subscriptions will still be happening/ Folks gave an inch on multi-boxing now is the new rage for people with a high entertainment budget. Get ready for more things like this and those that justify it.

This is usually where I see them

https://i.postimg.cc/1zn92w4v/Capture.png

None there in my shard now though so I found a video for you :slight_smile:

https://youtu.be/uY2apGD-Fkc

That inch was given 16 years ago.

In C++ everything is possible.

In software it’s all numbers, floats, vectors, quaternions, integers.

Blizzard can write a very VERY simple script that detects repeats, everyone else can too.

You can, in C# if you want, after following a 5minute tutorial on Youtube.

They clearly have enough CPU cycles given how many realms exist, and servers are span up.

They clearly have quite talented employees who can no doubt do this far, far better than any of us can.

They just need to want too.

It’s only numbers, and pattern recognition isn’t new, heck it’s big business when you factor in Machine Learning in modern times.

Almost everyone cares. The trouble is what to do about it. Despite the forum lore on this topic, I don’t believe for a moment that Blizzard turns a blind eye because the bots “make them money.” I really don’t.

I think it’s a difficult flood to block off because once they find a faucet and turn it off, somebody just turns on another one.

The other thing is that we REALLY need to get people to stop conflating multi-box players with bots. They are not the same thing at all. I dislike both – and strongly – but one is against ToS and the other is not. One is just a guy having a good time trying to coordinate a complicated playstyle and the other is a guy sitting in a room with 100 other guys or on a network with 100 other guys who has a daily quota to meet because they’re making real world money off of this game’s economy.

Blizzard does ban them, and as soon as they do, the same group of 100 guys make new accounts and start over somewhere else.

So. Blizzard has to find a legal and efficient way to deal with it that doesn’t violate the players’ rights or their own terms of service. That is a task beyond my ken, but I don’t envy them the task. It IS frustrating, but it’s not because “no one cares.”

Everyone cares. No one likes it. And Blizzard likes it least of all. I’d bet on it.

I used to think like this, and then I learnt the basics of programming and how things like this work, and don’t work.

There’s no need to find “legal” grounds, they covered that base in the terms of service we all agreed too.

They already do it all this logging.

But since being back I’m quite assured that Blizzard are 100% reactive, not proactive, while they can do and will have systems in place to detect, monitor and curb these things, they will only react if it’s interfering enough with the playerbase, and report numbers are high enough to tap someone on the shoulder and say “Yea… we should probably boot this one before it makes it to twitter”.

I’m pretty sure Blizzard has also stated outright they don’t “want” to ban, they suspend, because in 6months time someone will re-fire up that account and pay for another token when the suspension lifts.

They entirely have the means, and the CPU power to do it, but even if the staff cares, and support cares, and the devs care, they probably aren’t the ones calling the shots.

The conflation between this, bots and multiboxers is one of human nature and will always happen, because even to software, that’s what they are… there’s ONE active account, and the rest are simply drones having commands relayed… in essence bots.

Argue it 'till you are blue in the face but that’s what it is, and that’s what people will always see.

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