Why does cloak of shadows remove everything now?

I know it’s been a thing but you can’t bleed them you cant disarm them you can’t HoJ them you can’t hit them during cloak. So cloak and evasion and double vanish seems like to much.

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Veil of Midnight talent added recently

Everyone asked the same question as you did when they added the talent

I guess rogues didn’t have enough tools to deal with melee as it is :confused:

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this is the answer always :^)

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The most insane thing they ever gave Rogue to this day I am just baffled at the Rogue bias Blizz has

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I would also like cheapshot and the silence effect on garrote to have a cooldown in pvp.

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Rogues have a better stoneform than dwarves?

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Yeah, it doesn’t put their Medallion on CD because that’s something they could be punished for.

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What will they think up next?

Just give Arms warrior orgnial Avatar in MoP?

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The PVP talent does allow cloak remove bleeds, but I’m pretty sure you can still use physical attacks and re-apply bleeds right after it’s pressed even if cloak is still rolling.

Because once a rogue is unstealthed and can’t do it again, they are useless. Get over it. You have ridiculous healing and ranged DOTS. Bye.

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Basically this but I tested it with Battlecruiser and the talent actually provides a ~1 sec physical immunity as well. So if they talent veil of midnight then after they cloak you need to just wait a second to start hitting them with physical abilities again (assuming they don’t “bubble” and press evasion at the same time :melting_face:)

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Yah, but if medallion is already on cd, it is lowered by 30 seconds. Rewards skillful use of stoneform

Face 4?! Is that yooouuuuuu

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It is me yes

Do any of you remember when chaos bolt would go through cloak of shadows? Was great. I think it also went through power word shield.

This was when, I believe, chaos bolt couldn’t be cast back-to-back though.

its because rogues needed undispellable divine shield on 2 min cd

No one is really sure, but the answer is almost certainly that a lot of below-average rogue players tried to play rogue like any other melee and struggled in shuffle.