Bring BACK MASTER LOOT to raids!
Who else agree’s?
It is time blizzard stops acting like mom and dad and stop protecting players at every whim. Bring back master looting!
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Or at the very least. Let us trade away the ‘highest IL piece’ we get and don’t need/want.
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Nope, it’s time for Blizzard to up the anti, and be even more mom and dad. This community train needs a conductor. If not it’ll just drive itself right off the bridge.
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Seems like it’s been going fine for a while now.
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This community has becoming more and more garbage every year for awhile now. If you ask me the garbage community is the real reason why people keep leaving. Nobody wants to play with a bunch of kids that keeps throwing their feces at them.
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Who hurt you?
Community is mostly fine. There are some bad eggs but definitely more good than bad.
It’s an online community. There will always be jerks in those.
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Defeatist, and if you keep thinking that way. Then yes your right there will be. But it doesn’t have to be that way. With the proper leadership, rules, consequences, and gameplay. The community can be made much better.
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I dont, good riddance to ML, improved the game a lot
No longer can leaders funnel loot to “old guard” or “gf” or “that one guy that sucks up to the officers” or “trials dont get loot even if they perform better than main raiders”
RNG Gods might be harsh, but they aint biased like RLs
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And what exactly would those be? Everything offends someone. You cannot coddle people.
Better is subjective, by the way. Not everyone would agree on what was or wasn’t best for the community.
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You had bad guilds Ralph, just saying.
That was not my experience with masterlooter.
I don’t care that it’s gone but still.
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You know exactly why.
Jerks. Selfish ones. People who will gladly steal loot from everyone they’ve invited. Cliques that use others to fill slots with false promises and then give their e-girlfriends all the prettiest purples.
Don’t be naive.
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Nah I ve mainly read stories, thankfully i didnt raid seriously till the start of Legion(though started trying out raids at end of wod to be clear) and only started mythic recently because TF was removed so I have never have to deal with such disgusting practices like stealing loot from people to give it to others.
You still get loot sooner or later, people dont need a leader to funnel loot to whoever they choose, people gonna progress either way.
It is worth removing such a terrible system to protect many players since it doesnt hurt anyone overall since at the end of the day you ll still get geared after a few raid nights.
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Yeah, but I do understand the annoyance of the inability to trade an “upgrade” that is actually worse because it’s a higher ilvl though.
Master Looter was good in the right hands but like any tool could be abused.
There’s not really a right answer here I think. I don’t feel strongly either way about it.
I agree that is an annoyance but I much rather prefer having that annoyance than people suffer due to toxic master looters.
It seems in this case the negatives outweigh the positives kind of situation personally.
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Honestly, if anyone thinks whats best for the community is verbal abuse, and abusing tools intended to remove problematic players from parties. Then nobody should really care what they think. They are part of the problem and should get pushed out of the game, or forced to change.
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They have said no on a number of occasions since they removed it. Does that mean it’ll never reappear? No, it’s always possible. But I believe it is more detrimental to the game’s social values than good. As I understand it, except for items that have a higher gear level than the person’s character currently has, every item can be traded anyhow (if I’m wrong I’m sure someone will correct me). It’s a small restriction if so, and guilds should be able to cope with that sort of relatively inocuous restriction.
Absolutely, but you’re only accounting for the extremes. Reality is often far more nuanced than that.
If there was a simple answer we’d have already fixed this problem. That’s my point.
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We need more, look at the community.
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It hasn’t been done yet, because so far Blizzard had been unwilling to try. Now they are showing they are trying to make steps to course correct some of the more toxic behaviors the community engages in. Although any benefits from said systems would take far longer then a single expansion. The changes are ripples, and will take a long time for them to make waves.
At first I was mad when they removed master loot, but I must say I don’t miss spending 5-10 minutes doing loot after every boss.
It would be great if they’d let us trade non-upgrades even if they’re higher ilvl, though.