Why does avengers shield slow me if it doesnt count as a slow?

Actually, the FotM Andies rerolled ret paladin. Just like they did, along with Dk’s, in WotlK classic.

And they continue to be failures at it.

This is just plain not true lol

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You’ve missed my entire point and that’s okay. Keep rambling.

Sure. That’s you. Okay. Sure.

Question: why are nobodies like you so desperate to try and impress me? I mean, it’s the same in RL, people like you come out of nowhere and just are so desperate for me to acknowledge them, and I still have no clue who you are.

Tell you what, tonight, I give you a gift, you can go tell all your friends and family you talked to me.

Then you can go stalk someone’s else Lodestone and convince yourself you’re better than you are… like 98% of the ret paladins out there.

Dazes in game are just a 50% snare. The only exception are mob dazes that hit you from behind

correct, but if you have played other versions of classic you would know that the annoying paladin shield is like an NPC daze that you cannot remove excluding immunities like BoP.

I agree this needs to be changed, just pointing out that its not some sort of conspiracy or a mistake, this is actually how it’s always worked and you are unlikely to encounter it in newer versions of WoW like TBC and Wrath because almost no one goes deep enough prot in PVP to have this become a problem, but do enough arena and you will occasionally encounter it and its incredibly tilting.

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Not true. Avenger’s Shield was added in TBC. In patch 2.0.10 it was changed to be a snare and is trinketable and shapeshiftable. That was only 3 months into TBC

Such is what I’ve had to deal with from that poster.

By the way, you run with Storm Gauntlets or Blazefury Medallion on Era? I’m just curious.

A slow that isn’t classified as a slow is silly. If it’s a slow it should be classified as a slow, and be subject to being cleared by anything that clears slows.

Storm are mandatory,imo. Anything else adds interesting flavor though

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I figured as much, it’s a good litmus test to determine whether a Ret player knows their business or not.

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They are not worth your time.

pretty much yeah.

Avenger shield is a poorly designed ability for paladins to have at this level bracket. They can slow you from a great distance and you can’t counter it by slowing them because they have too many ways to remove slow effects from themselves. It would really help if they had to stand still for it.

Divine Protection does not allow physical attacks while protected, unless it’s a spell (judgement, exorcism, not sure about AS). You can’t CStrike, DStorm or AA during.

Blessing of Freedom is dispellable by Priest and Shaman (both available to Horde). Both can also dispells every blessing and Seals, making the paladin unable to cast judgement.

Avenger’s Shield has a 10 sec duration (magic effect iirc, so priest dispell works) and a 30 second cooldown an require swapping to a shield to throw (so GCD apply before you can actually throw)

If we’re talking purely about flag carrying, a shaman is also quite powerful with Purge, Earthbind and Ghost wolf, which are all basic spells that don’t require a rune.

AS should be considered a slow like other spells, but the amount of bull in these threads about paladin is insane.

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He’s spewing the same wrong nonsense you were. It didn’t work this way for the vast majority of TBC. It worked like this for 3 months, then never again

Your inability to believe me really shows how pathetic you are and that you’ve literally never been good at or accomplished anything in your life because you can’t comprehend someone else being able to. It also paints you as a liar yourself because liars are the most likely to believe that others are lying and to accuse people of lying. Really sad honestly. Be better.