for the people who hate them, why?
love em why do u ask
Mostly what I’ve seen people complaining about them is:
- They are “Too easy” for the gear it gives.
- They draw too much of a crowd, thus other aspects of the game suffer
- It’s not one of the big three, therefore it shouldn’t be allowed
- Heavy dislike for all solo play.
I think it’s all dumb personally.
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they suck, it’s dungeons for solo player with 0 rewards worth doing
I love delves. I just have outgrown them on 2 toons and almost a 3rd now.
T11 and ONLY T11 should give hero track end of delve drops and guilded crests on bountiful and mythic track items in the vault. In addition to all of the current T11 things, I would add that Zekky is guaranteed to jump you and has to be fully defeated and is basically Zekky standard mode. Also in T11, when he jumps you, he obliterates your Brann for the entire fight forcing you to handle him solo. If you fail to defeat him, he doesn’t retreat but instead runs to block the final boss door or maybe just treasure room and, again, Brann gets nuked when you pull him.
I’d also add a time limit to the T11 bountiful delve like mythic+ (oh the horror) where if you fail the timer, Zekky runs off/doesn’t spawn but you also don’t get the hero track item at the end
It gives you up to 3 heroic track choices from the vault…and its the only solo content that offers anywhere near that quality of reward.
What rewards are you expecting?
This one I’ll never get. Did ppl forget you can also play with other ppl in delves or is the community just that out of touch with allowing people to enjoy a endgame mode that can be soloed?
They are not designed to be interesting.
Each delve has pretty much the same activity:
- Kill a bunch of mobs
- Kill a bunch of mobs and loot a few items
- Kill a bunch of mobs and free some captive NPCs
In addition the actual gameplay of delves is not very fun - it basically consists of “can you survive the auto attacks” or “can you survive the constant spells being casted at you”.
I find that delves fall into one of two categories:
- So easy that they are mind numbingly boring (tank classes, BM hunters, ret paladins, frost dks, etc)
Or
- So challenging to just survive auto attacks that the delves are just frustrating.
There seems to be no rewarding feel to completing a delve whatsoever.
Delves are just not designed to be interesting.
I don’t.
I do hate posts made for the sake of sh* stirring.
I actually like them. You don’t have to do them on hard mode. Just knock out the quests and such to get your items and be done with it. Or join a group for harder content and better rewards.
I dislike coconut. You know what I don’t do? eat coconut. I don’t run around telling people I hate it so they shouldn’t eat it.
Trust me, I get it, I don’t agree with these people, just saying what I have personally observed.
so just like dungeons then
except…
in dungeons you don’t get different stories, treasures to find, puzzles to solve, areas to explore for hidden XP and power boosts, and lots of other good/fun stuffs.
I don’t hate delves. But there is one thing I wish they’d either buff or remove.
I got all my delve achievs done. Done a TON… why do I still need keys for bountiful? I don’t need the gear. I wanna fill my vault. (Would be nice for alts too as a faster catch up)
I don’t hate them. I just find them a bit draining.
My armchair dev instincts are that the various little instances we’ve had over the past few expansions are dancing around a really, really fun idea, but I can’t quite identify what it is. So as I brainstorm and nitpick, my feedback about delves may come across more negative than I intend.
They’re OK, the first couple of times you do them. Brann is problem. They’re not particularly engaging or complex. Pull small and have the right gear level, that’s the challenge.
But 8 per week? More if you want to gear alts… That’s hellish.
The importance of keys definitely start drying up, all I need is a champion chest on my Mage and keys will be completely irrelevant.
I don’t dislike them, but they are not nearly as fun as a good m+ run, or raid.
There are a lot of little annoyances, it’s basically torghast without the cool stuff, and more gear drops.
Would i remove them? F no, people who say that stuff are insane. More variety of content is NEVER bad.
I don’t think you need keys if you’re not interested in the gear (though maybe the crests are in the bountiful chests?.. I forget). But you can get your vault maxed out without using a single key. And I believe if you run the Bountiful delves, the non-Bountiful trunks are the ones with a chance at the Delver’s Bounty. So yeah if you have no interest in 603 gear, just run the Bountiful ones without a key.
edit: but if you have a class with multiple specs that have different gear, the 603 gear can be valuable for much longer.