Fortunately at the beginning of the expansion, the differences between the covenants were not too many, although necrolord was better than venthyr, you could play reasonably not so far behind the covenant bis playing whatever it was.
Currently the difference between playing venthyr to a nightfae are already very noticeable in raid, now with the buff that they are going to grant, the difference is going to be even more overwhelming and necessarily if you want to be competent you will have to reroll to nightfae.
Why don’t you think about the players who play more than one type of content with their character?
by having to stop playing venthyr to be nightfae now I will no longer be able to play arenas, and if I choose to stay venthyr I will no longer be able to raid because it is not the competent option for mythical progress.
Why do you improve the covenant bis one more time instead of eliminating the differences between the worst and the best?
as if it were no longer a problem that due to the poor loot in raid, I have to invest the weekly chest in an item with bis pve statistics. now you force me to stop making one type of content when I equally enjoy playing both.
So I ask that you reconsider stop buffing the nightfae and instead better those that are currently behind or at least tell me why you think that all players only do one type of content.
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Great point man, I agree with you. There needs to be a way where we can play 1 convenant and have fun of all aspects of wow. Right now 100% certain covenants don’t let you do good in PvP compared to over.
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Because the best covenant for Spriest is not the same as the other specs.
NF was underwhelming for Disc and Holy to the point where it was extremely unpopular. It’s behind the other 3 covenants by a long shot when looking at what priests are currently picking.
It’s a flaw with the covenant system overall that people pointed out forever ago. Covenant abilities will not ever be the same value for every spec, and because of that any buffs/nerfs that happen to them to fix one spec might make it overwhelming for another. Most long time players have been expecting this.
In Priest’s case (or specifically Spriest’s) Covenant abilities were pretty much all bad, so it didn’t matter. NF wasn’t ‘the best’ until it turned out that calculations were off for Mastery.
It doesn’t change the fact that in the current game, NF priests are extremely rare. So they’re making changes based off that data.
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The best Shadowpriest covenant for Patchwerk right now is Kyrian with Pelagos:
https://bloodmallet.com/chart/priest/shadow/soul_binds/castingpatchwerk
The best for Hectic Add Cleave is Kyrian then Venthyr:
https://bloodmallet.com/chart/priest/shadow/soul_binds/hecticaddcleave
If you simmed other setups, you would find that they all shuffle around depending on the specifics of the raid boss, dungeon, etc.
The reason they shuffle around is because they are all within about +/- 150 DPS from each other on any encounter. Covenant choice is not why your DPS is low.
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lol dude, so you make your decisions based on what the blootmallet web tells you? have you even seen warcfratlogs? or at least you know how the covenant nightfae works?
I guess you didn’t understand the background of the post.
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Currently there are differences between the covenants and they are not so huge even though nightfae is the best for the reduction of void form and the mastery bonus that it gives you as the battle progresses.
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The fights in raid are not defined by pure maximum dps, but you have to adapt to the mechanics of the particular boss, his timers etc.
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Therefore the one that currently makes you adapt the best is nightfae and the buff that they are going to give will make the difference between the covenants even greater, to play competently if or if you should be a nightfae.
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Now if according to you for pure dps maximum kirian is the best, why in the best breakdowns of kills the bosses there are almost no kiryan sp?
For nothing I have low dps, in fact in the mythical progress that we have I have much better logs than you being venthyr, and it is that currently you can be competent being of any covenant but if the buff to nightfae continue it will not be able to continue being the same way , and then necessarily to be competitive in raid you will have to be nightfae.
New design is done in earnest with but live design is kept restricted to promote upheaval. More gameplay, more rerolling, more microtransactions.
You don’t need to look the rumors or leaks to know this. All you need to do is have played any other MMO before.
No one is forcing you to do anything. Its a choice based upon what your goals are, and if you thought there were going to leave it the way it was then you are being naïve. If like 1% of all priests play night fae for example of course they would boost it. They haven’t nerfed venthyr or kyrian, they are boosting the covenants less played to try and get more spread.
I play all 3 specs so i swapped on the weekend to night fae. I dont complain about it, you just suck it up and put the work in
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This is wild conspiracy stuff based on your own opinion. Realistically, creating huge shifts that force people to play something that they’re not comfortable with (and spend money) churns users, rather than generating significant revenue. Your other MMO you’re basing this on is likely a struggling F2P, which is selling all kinds of transactions, but STILL is probably not intentionally getting users to churn off of the class they’re comfortable with. F2P resorts to selling power before they incentivize rerolls.
I seriously hope they wont make it live, sick of this crap.
I chose NF because there was more history for fans of the night elves and I am really surprised:
I use my power to regenerate mana, I reduce the cd of my allies dps (in m +) I provide more resistance to the tank. I can do all of that while helping my beloved night elves.
You are not providing any evidence to support your position. I am saying that you are greatly overestimating how much of a buff this is to Night Fae.
Yes, this may cause Night Fae to take the lead, but it should not force you to reroll, because it’s a marginal gain that only applies situationally depending on a variety of factors.
Night Fae is already the best cov for shadow in raids: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/26/#class=Priest&spec=Shadow&combatantinfo=Covenants
Kyrian shadowpriests don’t even have enough kills in Mythic to be displayed on the chart.
The proposed buff is actually massive because the CDR on voidform will enable it to line up with every power infusion, whereas right now the second PI doesn’t happen in voidform.
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