Sometimes you just have to cut your losses.
Last night I’m in a 16 GD, I’ve got ksm and my vault is full currently so really I’m just fishing for items and maybe some valor.
Everything went fine until the 2nd boss, the tank just kept pulling the adds to the back of the platform and nobody except myself was using the cannons… to the point that we never were able to phase the boss.
We wipe, no big deal… we’ve got plenty of time. I explain the fight… explain we have to pickup the ammo and use the cannons to kill the main cannon.
Not one peep from the group. Okay whatever maybe they’re on discord or something.
Two wipes later due to the same exact mistakes and I just left. Not one person said anything during or after the wipes. So I said ef em’… I’m fine with wiping once or twice this early in the season… but I can’t be bothered to deal with a group who won’t even communicate with someone they’re actively playing with.
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Some people just have very short fuses is all.
I generally don’t leave unless a) someone else leaves first or b) the “first wipe” is the first of many and it’s clear to me that the group is definitely not going to beat this boss or c) we’re more than an hour into a run and I have to attend to RL stuff because who the hell expects a +5 workshop to take 1+ hours!? (true story, literally 20+ minutes wasted on the trap place… and it was the tank so we couldn’t just 4 man it.)
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Labeling someone as a baby for leaving an M+ early merely on principle is a bit harsh. I admit, how a person exits can make a difference. But if it’s early enough on and it’s reasonably bad, leaving makes sense. No reason to stick around if you can deduce that you won’t time the key and if overall the group doesn’t feel prepared for the run. Worst case you lost a key stone level and you try again, yeah?
People leave for all sorts of reasons.
My personal favourite is the shame “dc” by the tank/healer after doing something stupid 
It is what it is, onto the next key!
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Lots of the times if you fail to kill a certan boss/trash pack with CDs and lust it means the key is already delepeted and no point in trying to do more.
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The junkyard has a special situation with the bots you gather. A wipe causes every who had one to lose it, putting you further behind in then a normal wipe.
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Frustration, lack of patience, can see where it’s going.
It’s not the correct thing to do. IMHO if you’re in a lower key you should know what you’re getting into and be along for the ride to help and teach. The higher you go an expectation that everyone is prepared and knows what they’re doing is not unreasonable.
I just wish it was more like pug raiding and arenas. People never get mad and leave at the first sign of trouble in those.
Right?
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I’ve said the exact same thing about the raid community, raiders claim how great their community is, yet they are just as horrible as the Mythic+ community.
So it’s just the community then
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A few different reasons, sometimes I’m guilty of this but if a group says “Beat Timer” and we wipe to the first boss of kara on a 15+ then I will just leave because if you can’t do the mechanics at the first boss then I doubt you can do huntsman and beat timer 
Bro I’ve left monopoly games with my family that were going on too long and they’re people I love lmao.
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Basically, the WoW community as a whole has gotten so toxic and self serving it’s quite disgusting.
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There are plenty of jerks out there in game.
People generally post about negative rather than positive. Who posts about sticking it out in bad group? I suppose I could post about every key we take pug and they are bad and we are nice to them anyway.
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He didn’t say early, he said “mid”.
Or, if the raid and mythic+ communities are as great as they claim, they could show it by taking non-raiders and non-mythic+ players who want to try it along and show them how great it is, but they won’t because, just like they say about LFR players, they don’t want to put forth the effort to grow their communities, they rather whine at Blizz to do things that try and strong-arm others into that content.
I guess I missed these claims. I don’t think it’s better worse others in game. Well better than a random BG.
You have inspired me to post about good experiences while pugging keys though. 
Wiping early is generally a sign of things to come. If I join an easier dungeon, people die to something silly, multiple times, especially early, I’m just dipping and finding a better group.
Too likely that we end up getting stuck on a harder part, and I’d rather not waste another 20-30 minutes for nothing.
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They probably cut their losses on timing it
How about you read his OP and find the word “mid” for me. Seeing how I was the first comment, it would have to be in the OP for me to know that.