not sure why the idea that flying costs a token is floating around. In wrath we bought flying and I was able to but it at 78 no problem. I was broke as hell during wrath too!
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We have understood that you are making things up this entire time. That was abundantly clear.
By making the one choice almost pure punishment. What a choice.
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So…there is still a long grind involved for the majority of people.
Yeah Burning Crusade and Wrath both had very organic flight purchases as questing provided the players with enough income to purchase it when hitting cap (or at least close to it). We don’t need flying to be gold sink, we don’t need to stop encouraging players from playing and that’s all gold sinks do imo.
Hell, reputation mounts costing upwards to 200k now has essentially turned me off from trying completely. I stopped with the Talbuks, everything else is stupidly expensive.
Buy WoW token, buy flying. Easier.
You’re pretty uppity for something that was clearly spelled out to be a theory. Why so condescending and angry? Logically speaking, based off of current costs of things, I came up with a “probably” and you got all bent out of shape. LOL
Welcome to Blizzard.
Because they already have enough gold to pay for it. In fact they have more than enough gold for it.
Nobody who advocates for “gold for flying” actually wants to spend the time farming the gold to pay for flying. They already have it, so “gold for flying” is code word for “instant, ‘free’ flying”.
Yup tbc had flying from flying trainer, wrath had cold weather flying at flying trainer, mop had winds or mists flying (forgot the name) from a flying trainer…
It only cost gold and be at max level, then done on that toon…
I support the both option… grind an achieve to
save gold or pay for flying per toon (likely on your main so that you can relax while grinding out the achieve)
I can guarantee that if they made the flying a gold sink that costs 300k gold, I would infact not have it. So it wouldn’t be free to me, I would be flat broke across all my characters.
Which is why folks advocate for gold, because Blizzard would never do that.
They simply expect “gold for flying” to be cheap.
But see, there already is a currency for flying.
It’s called “rep”, that we all have to earn.
I’d rather be farming “flying points”, not rep, myself. I don’t like that we effectively have to be exalted with everyone. I liked rep when they were optional.
Let us grind 10,000 “flying points” from all sorts of content. Some from dailies, some from mobs we can farm 24x7. Have it drop from raid bosses, PvP awards. Everything grants “flying points”.
Play the game, get flying.
I’d much rather they return to the organic, hey you quested and earned gold via that so here is the cost equivalent to your gold via questing. This game has become stupid with time sinks and the devs micromanaging their players to the extreme.
Which was questing. Folks quested to cap and could afford flying at such. Your “Flight Points” is what we called, leveling the character.
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If you snark, you’re going to get snark.
I’m not bent out of shape. I know what reality of flight’s pricing is. The contents of that old unlinkable interview notwithstanding, you can fly in everything but BfA and SL for a whopping 250g. There is zero evidence in flight’s implementation in every expansion that the any gold-for-flight system must be made significantly more costly than it currently is.
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Realistically, it should be designed for new players playing through the previous expansion (by design of the chromies time thing) and the new expansion.
Blizzard can do whatever it wants, to be sure, but that doesn’t mean it’s okay or we should accept it. Remember, they also promised to not have flying leading to mass unsubs and them desperately creating pathfinders to combat this. Devs say many things. Some of it will come bite them. And like I said, I won’t tolerate grindy, difficult, expensive mounts either.
Fair enough that I have my own experiences, but I was just a tiny kid who didn’t barely understood how an auction house worked 
, I have a hard time believing y’all struggled to get flying in wrath. At least standard flying + cold weather. It was literally streamlined to get it via questing. And with expectations of flying being cheap now (isn’t it baseline too? or 150 and then 310?) I just don’t see them making it a giant leap to be expensive.
But I don’t like your solution much 
. I don’t like that you’re starting from this ground zero where it has to be difficult/expensive because “oh that’s just how things are!” I don’t buy the argument that flying has to be difficult, grindy, or expensive, even with both available. That’s my point. I don’t like the precedent you’re setting that it should be this long grindy thing and the counter part is equivalent in gold.
I also don’t buy that flying will go from 5k or whatever it is right now to 200k either. Even for Blizz that’s a ballsy move in this day and age. The game and its expectations have changed. Plus we should always ask for more and better things, not some appeasement tactic that led us into this problem in the first place.
Retroactively give previous expac’s flying for free on a new expac. Make a new expac’s price be equivalent of license in new continent to what we saw in Wrath, Cata, MoP. You’re looking at like 10k per character, if that. And sure, make a pathfinder for hitting everything honored, and that’ll equivalent in work for those who don’t pay. Don’t settle for mediocrity.
also I’m not being defensive, and I hope you’re not seeing me as being aggressive. I apologize if that’s the case.
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I dunno, when SL launched I gathered herbs and mined as I leveled, I dinged 60 with 100k from 0 (I mailed off what gold I had prior to SL to some random low level 
). If Blizz announces in 10.0 that flying will be purchasable at max level for 25k then I’d strongly suggest leveling a double gatherer first when the xpac launches 
(Wrath)Cold Weather Flying was 1000, nerfed to 500, nerfed to 50, removed.
(Cata)Flight Master’s License was 250g, removed.
(MoP) Wisdom of the Four Winds was 2500g (with rep discounts down to 2000), removed.
I don’t think it would be a lot, even my 25k I say is a stretch and theoretical upper limit with inflation scaling.
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Time is more valuable than money, usually.
Where did I say it had to be long and grindy? I’m the one who said we should be able to immediately start working on Pathfinder as soon as we hit max level. I expect Pathfinder to be exploration and main storyline questing.
I expect Blizz to make flying expensive with gold, because they hate us flying. It’s not a precedent, it’s just theory based off what we know of their Corrupt-a-Wish.
And if it’s going to be a choice of gold or Pathfinder, it probably won’t be cheap.
There’s no precedent being set. I just dislike wasting gold and gave my opinion on how Pathfinder should be.
So you want to make rich players that have millions of gold to pay more then some player new too the game that only has a few thousand in gold …wrong.
Yes.
This would both ensure early flight is accessible to new players and create an optional gold sink for players with a ridiculous amount of gold.