Well, getting three bow drops with only two Hunters in the group multiple times now is awful feeling. Thereâs also the issue of getting three of the same tank trinket, and of course the three warglaives for our single Demon Hunter. Not to mention it makes loot distribution take longer since my group is running with a makeshift Master Loot situation of having everything go to one person to distribute, though thatâs more personal issues.
Group loot is easily the worst version of the loot system weâve had in the past three expansions, and I sincerely hope they at least give us a choice to not use it because Iâm getting sick and tired of not getting gear because weâre getting repeats of items and too many of one item for number of people in the group, or because nothing drops that I can use.
Edit to add: it removes any and all incentive to run LFR for transmog, especially with the roll restrictions, that it takes away a difficulty of the raid I sometimes enjoyed doing.
Right. The same amount of loot drops, and itâs determined by how many people are in the raid. So itâs not possible that everyone is getting less loot. Every season either with PL or with NGP loot - there were some people who got a lot, and some people who didnât get a lot based on luck.
But the lizardy parts of our brains responsible for rewards and pattern recognition make us feel like that if something changed AND Iâm getting less rewards â then the change made me get less (instead of just luck).
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This
Feels like it works the same you just have to hit a roll button now.
However, I do feel all auto group related content should be personal loot. I just think itâs less drama.
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I have killed 45 bosses in raid since its release now and have not won a single roll on an item from raid. This is why I hate group loot.
Youâre wearing more raid gear than you could have gotten from M+, but keep on with the lying to prove your point.
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The only solution is a degenerate one: Gather all your friends with mains or alts of a similar armor class, have them set their loot spec to your role prior to joining the raid, roll need on everything you can and have them roll need too and pass their winning rolls to you.
Congrats, youâve cheesed group loot. Try not to drown in your own loot.
Please count all of the raid gear I have. I got my ring from the weekly, look at all of my tier. Its all upgradable except 1 piece. That one piece came because I bought it off the guy who won to get my 4 piece.
thats the same as personal loot though, a person with full mythic gear could always win in LFR
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the wow community in a nut shell. we hate everything we currently have but if any changes are made we hate that as well and want to go back
For me, I have a couple complaints. It feels like the loot does not get weighted to our composition. For example, we have had two shield drops when only one character in our raid can use shields. Secondly, I feel like it adds drama and makes loot annoying. My guild has been assigning loot in some cases and I would find the process less stressful if it just handed out the gear instead of having people argue over it.
Or you knowâŚhave a better loot system in place that actually rewards effort.
Im right there with you, I just wanted to illustrate how easy it is to abuse in pugs that shouldnât have it.
Im done raiding in DF as long as this system remains, im only doing M+
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I was just saying the same thing last night in raid 
I just donât see the point. Iâll probably grab AotC and call it good.
Basic human psychology. If you tell people they lost a roll to someone else they hate it. If you donât tell them and just donât give them any gear theyâre less bitter.
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My personal problem is that loot will drop for classes not even in the group.
you may be getting more loot, but other people are getting less
because the current group loot system is exactly the same as personal loot except worse because people can roll on things that are not upgrades just because they are different. For instance, i have a crafted 405 mh on my warlock and it lets me roll on a 398 mainhand. I have tier in slots at a higher level and it lets me roll on lower ilvl gear. you also keep refilling the raids each week with people that still need loot from the boss so you are almost always rolling against everyone that is eligible to roll on a piece and have to not only get the rng to have a piece you can use drop, but then the rng to win the roll against a never decreasing list of people. i would much rather take my 1 piece every two weeks than to go 4 weeks without ever winning a roll.
My reasons, from most important to me to least.
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I am kind of sick of people telling me how my opinions and feelings on a matter are wrong because of some arbitrary statistic.
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People telling others that the two loot systems are the same since the outcome is the sameâŚbut in the same breath claim GL is better⌠If one is better or worse, they are not the same.
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When folks claimed that others where winning doubles, or gear they outgeared, people called them liars since Blizz said it wasnât possible. Now Blizz said they need to work on the system because it is in fact possible and happening.
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Blizz spending dev time fixing GL when PL was fine already. Seems like they broke a window to have an excuse to fix it.
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Adds to the âLFR peasantâ drama. Folks come into LFR and do whatever to disrupt enjoyment because it doesnât matter to them. This includes needing on everything. But do that in a Normal+ and those same folks will rage at you like you smacked their mom.
