coz they know the retail wow killer is incoming
and they dread it
I am going to switch completely to Classic when it is released, and I hope it does well. However, the odds of it overtaking retail are remote, at best.
The melodrama is STRONG in this one,i hope you're getting paid for that.
Thank you. I take that as a compliment. lol
Yea the Glorious battle for Vanilla. Come on man you're not gonna tell the grandkids you took an arrow to the knee in the final battle after Nost fell?
Damn!!!!! How did I not think of that first? That's one of my favorite MoP lines. lol
Because the Classic "community" attack retail players at every turn, in every thread, everywhere.
They are not interested in dissenting opinions. They want an echo chamber.
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Because the Classic "community" attack retail players at every turn, in every thread, everywhere.
So, of course, they're going to get mad at you.
When you do nothing but attack someone, you expect them to treat you civilly?
Seriously... Read these forums... It's nothing but "Retail players are babies.", "Retail players fail at life.", "Classic players are gods.", etc...
The Classic community is showing how much garbage they really are, and proving that as a group, players of Retail tend to be better people.
You say the "Classic community" is better? Prove it.
Also, see you in Classic.
you must have not seen how the retail community acted for 10 years towards those who wanted classic.
but hey, i guess its okay to be bitter after enduring only 1/10th of what you dished out.
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Because the Classic "community" attack retail players at every turn, in every thread, everywhere.
They are not interested in dissenting opinions. They want an echo chamber.
short term memory from those on the retail side is an interesting thing.
you must have missed all the wall of no (about having no vanilla), you think you do but you don't, and etc that vanilla fans put up with for a decade.
but go ahead and tell us about dissenting opinions.
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<span class="truncated">...</span>They are not interested in dissenting opinions. They want an echo chamber.
short term memory from those on the retail side is an interesting thing.
you must have missed all the wall of no (about having no vanilla), you think you do but you don't, and etc that vanilla fans put up with for a decade.
but go ahead and tell us about dissenting opinions.
You assume everyone here who isn't on your side vehemently is against you, again
Do you know the difference between carpet bombing and targeted strikes,
Do you know what Generalizations are.
Do you understand how your ranting could harm/push away people who likely had nothing to do with your stupid ''war'' with GD,but might be otherwise excited to play classic.
I defy you to find any proof that i'm on this ''anti Classic'' side of your ignorant ''us v them'' nonsense troll war.
I suppose not.
For a multitude of reasons:
To be honest, as an avid Classic lover, we're kind of the new vegans. We don't shut up about it. There probably is also a bit of resentment with the state of retail the way it is. Bit of Tribalism. Bit of hopeful schadenfreude as well. Maybe a smidge of fear that it might hasten the downfall of retail.
*shrug*
I don't think we're the new vegans. None of us are saying that we're better human beings for playing a purer form of the game. We're just saying that we want to play classic.
It's not unreasonable to either feel nostalgia, or feel like you know of a system that you prefer.
Finally, we make no demands that others join us, nor do we care if others have other opinions.
That's very different from vegans.
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nor do we care if others have other opinions.
Tell that to those who don't like my opinion that the current report system is fine. I'm already getting threats.
Because the Classic "community" attack retail players at every turn, in every thread, everywhere.
So, of course, they're going to get mad at you.
When you do nothing but attack someone, you expect them to treat you civilly?
Seriously... Read these forums... It's nothing but "Retail players are babies.", "Retail players fail at life.", "Classic players are gods.", etc...
The Classic community is showing how much garbage they really are, and proving that as a group, players of Retail tend to be better people.
You say the "Classic community" is better? Prove it.
Also, see you in Classic.
you must have not seen how the retail community acted for 10 years towards those who wanted classic.
but hey, i guess its okay to be bitter after enduring only 1/10th of what you dished out.
There's something called being a gracious winner - which many Vanilla pushers are absolutely not being. Just because some people were jerks to you for something, doesn't mean you have to turn around to stoop to their level.
As the person you quoted said - look around these forums; for people claiming how the community was better and tighter in Vanilla, the forums are showing nothing of the sort. They're showing people slamming anyone who disagree with their opinion, they're showing people ranting and raving at Blizzard over any change they feel isn't OK, on and on.
No wonder Blizzard employees don't post on this forum or give little updates on how it's going. People keep asking where they are and why so few updates... If you were working hard on a game, and you visited your forums to see people acting the way the were, would you want to pop in? I wouldn't. I'd be ashamed of them and stay clear.
Vanilla players have had a chance to get a game they wanted - and had a chance to use these forums to pull people in, engage them and to revel in getting something they've wanted for however long. They could be using the forums to try to build guilds, get world firsts done, etc, etc.
Instead they use it to moan about how this pixel is one pixel to the left, and how "retail newb johnny" is a moron because he's OK with the night darkness being 5 lumens brighter, and to continue to feed trolls and engage in petty arguments that ends up in everyone looking like a fool.
Now this isn't how everyone acts - but look around, and you'll see it's the most vocal group here. Those other threads actually trying to pull people in engage just end up getting buried pages back.
Whether or not you agree with change X and believe it is or isn't a big deal isn't the point - the point is that people aren't communicating in a respectful and constructive way. They're coming off a petty and ungrateful
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you must have not seen how the retail community acted for 10 years towards those who wanted classic.
but hey, i guess its okay to be bitter after enduring only 1/10th of what you dished out.
short term memory from those on the retail side is an interesting thing.
you must have missed all the wall of no (about having no vanilla), you think you do but you don't, and etc that vanilla fans put up with for a decade.
but go ahead and tell us about dissenting opinions.
So, the "Classic community" isn't full of better people after all?
Thank you for finally admitting that fact.
I'm super excited for classic. Even though I was opposed to it for years, not because I didn't like the game, but because I disliked the attitudes of those advocating for it. Always going on about retail sucking, retail players being horrible, etc... (This has gone on from Classic advocates for YEARS.) So, I didn't want Classic.
Now, after having been out of WoW for over a year, having played for 12 years prior... I'm hyped for Classic, and can't wait to play the game I loved for so long.
But, let's not pretend the Classic community is any better than the retail community. It isn't now, and hasn't been for almost a decade.
Because the Classic "community" attack retail players at every turn, in every thread, everywhere.
They are not interested in dissenting opinions. They want an echo chamber.
You are posting in a classic forum section where you can bash classic all you want. In contrast, classic must never be spoken of in GD/BFA forum. What are you saying about echo chambers?
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nor do we care if others have other opinions.
Tell that to those who don't like my opinion that the current report system is fine. I'm already getting threats.
Cite said âthreatsâ or I am going to call BS.
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I am going to call BS.
Don't need to justify or prove anything to you. Pretty apparent where you stand when it comes to bullying.
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Cost them a raid teir or two.
coz they know the retail wow killer is incoming
and they dread it
This.
Basically it invalidates their 10,000 world quest achievement.
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Tell that to those who don't like my opinion that the current report system is fine. I'm already getting threats.
That's an opinion about what parts of classic we should keep. That's a different discussion.
If you ask any of those vegans in the GD forum which ones we should keep, they'd say "none of it."
Could be they don't see why anyone would want to go back to an age of effort to get gear. Maybe afraid those old values will bleed over into retail. God forbid they remove that atrocious Titanforging.
Because they're bad. That's the boiled down version.
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short term memory from those on the retail side is an interesting thing.
you must have missed all the wall of no (about having no vanilla), you think you do but you don't, and etc that vanilla fans put up with for a decade.
but go ahead and tell us about dissenting opinions.
You assume everyone here who isn't on your side vehemently is against you, again
Do you know the difference between carpet bombing and targeted strikes,
Do you know what Generalizations are.
Do you understand how your ranting could harm/push away people who likely had nothing to do with your stupid ''war'' with GD,but might be otherwise excited to play classic.
I defy you to find any proof that i'm on this ''anti Classic'' side of your ignorant ''us v them'' nonsense troll war.
I suppose not.
You just hit the nail on the head with a 10lb hammer!
Thats just it. Anyone who gives this situation thought beyond muh vanilla knows this whole troll "war" is fabricated to keep the hype train rollin.
Brilliant really. All it takes is a couple threads and the zealots do the rest. LOL.
Who needs advertisement when your customers are on a level of zealotry that rivals the Heaven's Gate Cult??
My question is after classic launches and we all become Classic Retail players what do we call the other group?
At Classic players...? I don't really see much hate for Classic players in general.
It's more likely the NoChanges crowd specifically, for a multitude of likely obvious reasons. They tend to be remarkably aggressive and unreasonable, and can't really view things realistically through their nostalgia goggles. Generalizing of course.
But if you did in fact mean Classic players as a whole, then yeah, kinda like what Lordgrim said with the vegan comparison. If someone played during vanilla, they'll make sure to tell you all about it.
coz they know the retail wow killer is incoming
and they dread it
Lol. That's not happening and you know it.
everything Khalamete said.
Purists are the absolute worst. they dont want whats best for the classic server, they only want whats best for their individual prescribed nostalgia goggles.