Why do people defend pathfinder?

How many hundreds or thousands of times do we need to slog through the exact same obstacles and mobs before we’ve “experienced the content” enough?

What is the purpose of making us wait almost half the expansion before we’re allowed to start the actual flight achievement?

Part 1, available immediately, should award flight in the launch zones. Period.
Any parts after that should award flight in the zone(s) that were in the same major patch.

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No sir. You do not. You NEVER get to dictate a thing. You are a player. I am a player we both are customers and my money is as green if not greener than your money. As a matter of fact with that attitude you probably should just stop talking in the forums at all as you obviously do not understand that because your position agrees with the developers does not give you any privilege above and beyond that of others.

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It wasn’t a claim, it was an opinion and you can have your own.

THAT is how it works, funny actually since you even realize it in the next sentence.

I don’t defend it i just don’t care if flying is or isnt in the game , or blizzard choice of implementation on flying into the game, its not like world content actually exists, its all instanced now. The only thing worth doing more than once in the world is gathering and well gold is so abundant don’t really need to do that anymore.

I wouldn’t mind Pathfinder half as much if the friggin’ achievement were just ACTUALLY THERE from Day 1!

If the arguement is - “We want you to experience the content on the ground -as intended- the first time through, before you can fly” OKAY… totally get it! But once I’ve done that - I WANNA FRIGGIN’ FLY… not wait 2/3 of a year for you to patch in the achievement I met the criteria for 8 months ago. I ALWAYS have the criteria for Pathfinder (at least as much as is available beforehand) completed WELL before Pathfinder is actually patched it.

I enjoy the lore. I enjoy single-player content. I DEVOUR the questing experience in these games. I’ve NEVER had a problem with hitting things like Loremaster or Rep Grinds to EARN flying because I just do those things naturally, because I enjoy them. So if I happen to get through them a half a year earlier than your average player, LET ME FLY 1/2 a year earlier than an average player. :stuck_out_tongue:

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stop making sense

that’ll get your crucified around here

You think a game that sells multiple flying mounts an expansion in a cash shop would ever remove flying? Holy moly man.

Ion inferring they wanted to remove them, and then doing a 1 year delayed flying after an expansion release is total garbage if you think that’s a compromise. I don’t doubt the Game Director wants to remove it, but you have to be in some serious denial to think it’s a compromise or to think they would ever remove flying :smiley:

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All I got here was the you dont have the will power to handicap your self to enjoy the game the way you “say” its meant to be played/you enjoy because you would just take the easy way out and fly because its quicker and you aren’t “handicapped”

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Red card for attempting historical revisionism.

They were on board with no more flying until they bled more subs in 19 days from that announcement (on a third party website interview the Friday of Memorial Day weekend), than any time in WoW’s history, and they were already losing an average of one million per month.

They lost so many subs, that they no longer release sub numbers every quarter to shareholders.

A “compromise” with Pathfinder that’d I’d consider a real compromise would (as I’ve stated before) include:

  1. No time gate, it’s available at launch.
  2. If players want to opt out of the account-wide unlock, they can pay with gold per toon at level cap.
  3. No instanced or PvP content requirements.

I personally would still do Pathfinder, since no matter how low my alts are, they can fly in unlocked areas, and don’t have to wait for level cap, which is a huge bonus.

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I’m fine with Pathfinder 1. Pathfinder 2 is a bit excessive, IMHO.

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To make matters worse for Blizzard SquareSoft made a power play by announcing flight would be coming to their game which oddly enough just so happened to concincide with Blizzards sudden reversal of the no more flight plans

Blizz tried to play it off as doing it as a good will gesture rather than let it be known they were in full panic mode and pathfider was a means to save face without having to make a full concession that they were wrong

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Because It isn’t pathfinder its Blizzard. :rofl:

i guess you’re not big on alts.
there is no “flight per continent” anymore.
basic flight lets you fly everywhere unless it’s a pathfinder zone.

You mean a multi-level rat maze designed entirely to slow you down and frustrate you into grinding out flight? Those maps?

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This, zones are a total pain to navigate. I miss tje more open classic zones vs the rats,nest of paths, verticality, and choked with mobs legion/bfa maps.

Mechagon wasnt bad though they,seemed to place agrressive mobs, some with snarea, right outide tje exit from town to gurantee your in combat the entierty of your trip.

Naz is tje worst, man to i hate navigating that place on foot, haven set foot tjere since inlocking flying so maybe its better now

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Depends on the zone. Broken Shore and Nazjatar are the bad ones I can think of, like you are describing.

I’ve thought about this a lot over the last couple of weeks, what with all the threads about it recently.

I’m not going to say that I “defend” Pathfinder, because I really have no stake in it. It’s not my “thing” to defend; I didn’t code it, I didn’t implement it, I’m only an end-user of it. That said, I do prefer Pathfinder to buying flying, and here’s why: I have many alts, most of which I don’t play very much. When I do play them, they’re usually very far behind the curve, having not been played much at all during the current expansion. So when I grind out Pathfinder on Ashnazg, here, I don’t have to worry about arranging flying on those alts; they just have it. It’s one less thing they have to catch up on.

So yeah. While the span of time between PF1 and PF2 could stand to be shortened up a bit, Pathfinder works for me and the way I play the game across the board.

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The game as you enjoyed it?

Being lazy?
Not doing any content?
Logging on and /dancing in orgrimmar?

Thing about you mob is that if you actually played the game you’d get it. Play the first 12 months and you get flying, don’t and you won’t.

Your tears in this topic literally fill my soul, and like I said i would I’m reporting your posts as spam.

Isn’t it odd that so many people say flying ruins WPVP? Is that true? I don’t know, it sure seems to alter it at least. Is that bad though? If you say flying ruins WPVP, was WPVP ruined in Wrath and MoP? If so, what made those expansions two of the most played and well remembered xapcs? Perhaps people don’t care about WPVP as much as good content, class design, and flying?

Can’t be a coincidence that subs went WAY down starting in WoD when they first started this nonsense.

How many people participate in WPVP? Half?

How many people had flying in MoP? 85%, 95%? There’s your answer. Favoring time played metrics over player happiness, in turn, leads to less time played. Ironic.

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I have an army of alts, the older ones had to buy the flight license back then and i was expensive.
If pathfinder is replaced by free flight then of course I’m for it but would them do it? They seem determined to make it hard to unlock flying.