Maybe I am old but I remember hard reserve being pretty common back in classic.
Heck we had an entire guild that formed around a guys hard reserve runs.
If I recall it was Cruise on Illidan who had the mount reserved in his ZG runs. Eventually they started pugging MC and ninja looted one of the bindings in MC from the MT of the top alliance guild on the server(Who was also in the guild of funeral raid fame) who had the other half since both halves dropped in the same run and he wanted to give it to the guy who would eventually become his main tank(original agreement was that the tank would come if he could get the binding he needed HRed).
Eventually they had enough regular puggers that they formed a guild called Cruise Control.
Point being HR is about as classic as class stacking so no one will compete with your drop.
I dont HR but I am impressed with the level of vitrioil for it
If you are forming your own PuG then you can set the rules. If you HR and item and others agree to join, good for you! Personally I will not join a group that HR’s items even if I don’t need/can’t use said item.
I think most of the P2W kiddos will crying themselves out and realize there are still options. Most will probably join a guild which would be best for the health of the over all game. The P2W nonsense was just the path of least resistance until Blizz banned it.
When you have played p2w for the last 3 years then you don’t know how it used to be without p2w.
They think GDKPs are the only way to raid but there are plenty of other ways to raid that doesn’t involve feeding gold buyers.
The HR is a gatekeeping method used by groups to keep others out. Unless you spent lots of gold to make your character have the BiS boes, enchants, and consumes, you’ll have zero chance of getting that loot.
They should remove all HR and loot prios if they want to keep with the spirit of classic. According to their words.
The social contract says that you won’t deliberately exclude or discriminate the other players. HR gear is an indirect action of that.
That and it erodes traditional guild structures and loot systems. Which is against the spirit of the season.
My guild does MS > OS. Just as the game would want us to. We have lost epics to pugs and many other items but in the end it’s just a game. I doubt anyone would oppose personal loot in my guild.
You are either ignorant on the topic or being willfully obtuse. People sold items in raids (rarely) yes, but GDKP as it is now was not prevalent until the end of Wrath. Even then it did not get to be popular with PuG’s until well after Cata. Stop with the gaslighting nonsense, P2W is over in SoD.
If you have any evidence to refute this I would love to see it.
We do something similar but in guild runs we currently use BiS>MS>OS. We make sure to keep groups together on each lock out as well to improve everyone’s chances of getting the gear they want.
In the rare case we do pug a spot for in our raid we HR epics, everything else is MS>OS and we no longer use the BiS. Again this is very rarely used but it did happen a few times.
Personally I would go to “those other servers” if personal loot was implemented.
Would love to see your evidence that GDKP’s were popular in WoW anytime before the end of OG Wrath, sincerely. You’ll excuse me if I don’t take a “trust me bro” since I’ve played this game since then and never saw it. I will also add I don’t know anyone that claims it was popular that has produced anything to back up this claim it just seems like something the P2W kiddos keep telling folks thinking it will make P2W not look so shady.
This is true. I have seen evidence from guildies of its use in EQ. We used a lot of that information to set up our loot system way back in '04.