Why do GD "casuals" lump all other "casuals" together?

Nah man, you don’t understand. I might play 55+ hours a week, and live on the forums like a part time job, but because I spend that play time all on pet battles that makes me casual.

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Everyone has their own definition of “casual”. According to my definition, anyone who does heroic AND mythic raiding “all the time” and has a really high io is not a casual.

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lol i didnt mean they do it all the time as in like, one person does it all the time

i mean in general that content is being done by casuals all the time. meaning its common for a casual player to do it

sorry bad wording.

Doesn’t matter to me . I hate everyone equally :rage:

I’m not understanding your definition of “all the time” in this context. It seems unnecessarily vague. How do you define a “casual”, and what percentage of those are raiding mythic?

I don’t count mythic raiders as “casuals”, even if they raid log and don’t do anything else in the game.

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idk i think a casual is just someone who plays for fun, doesnt have unlimited time to grind/raid on a big schedule/etc. if current content sucks we just go back to legacy farming or whatever, get some tmog, mess around.

but doing some mythic bosses in a pug only takes a couple hrs a week if that. not sure why ppl think thats hard for a casual player to do?

like why is someone who posts on the forum 10,000 times and grinds mounts on 12 characters casual but someone who raids 3 hours a week in heroic or mythic in pugs not?

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So you can’t be casual and good at the game? Seems arbitrary.

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GD casuals will have you believe that most people play this game as a single player rpg, are crippled with social anxiety and are unable/unwilling to perform at a level required of them to achieve milestones atoc/ksm/ce/glad

any form of rewards for group content is discriminatory,

Item level discrepancy of difficult content vs world quests should be non existent,

They’re just the loud minority with an absolutely gigantic sense of entitlement

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This person…

Isn’t pugging into mythic raids.

what why not ???

The WoW GD forum tells me what I should be outraged about.

There is a core of people in this game that are convinced that they speak for “the players”. Once they get their group speak going, that’s it. You will never convince them that others may or may not agree with them.

They get support from certain Content Creators like Bueller and Asmongold who reinforce the idea that what those people are saying represents how “the players” feel. No one can possibly have a different point of view and something is wrong with “the devs” if they don’t understand that.

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“Casual” is practically meaningless thanks to being both a gradient rather than an absolute and being relative.

To someone who only does pet battles, a player who runs M+ 15 keys weekly doesn’t seem even remotely “casual”, but to someone whose bread and butter is keys upward of +20 that same player is incredibly pedestrian.

So really the biggest thing that needs to be kept in mind is how things look from the standpoint of the person using the word.

Mythic raiding is serious content that requires serious preparation, like years of learning, studying, and a hefty dose of min-maxing. People who log in and ask themselves, “shall I do pet battling or farm some ore today” aren’t the type that a mythic raid short a few players is looking for. Casuals don’t have that top ilvl needed to pug mythic because they don’t need it to do the typical content that casuals have available to them.

I propose it is rare for someone who has never raided seriously and takes a casual view of the game to raid mythic. And spending hundreds of hours pushing the highest keys they can, no, that’s not casual either.

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Guides don’t take years to read, and then practice the rotations. Raidbots can spit out the necessary numbers in a matter of minutes. :man_facepalming:

You heard it here first,

A 10min YouTube video on the correct rotation and 30 mins on a target dummy =/= years of learning.

Casual doesn’t = bad at the game, like what?

Our mate is totally delusional

You accept new players who have never raided before into a progression mythic raid and have low ilvl gear if they have glanced at a guide? I don’t think so. I propose that even using raidbots - and understanding how to use it - is not remotely casual.

The “if you are learning to move your first character on the screen today you should be ready to do mythic raiding tomorrow” attitude I often see here is weirdly clueless. That’s not how players turn from noobs who don’t know how to do keybinds into elite players.

It is mostly the normal-heroic elitists complaining about this on GD the real mythic players don’t care as they are doing their mythic thing.

And that’s at the middle/bottom of the thread after quoting and specifying which people they’re speaking about.

I’d love to see “casual” Mythic raiding. What is that… one boss?

You mean you buy carries?

No, I think there’s lots of definitions for “casual.” That’s why I use the term “open world players” for some things.

Well that’s just false. That’s like three or four trolls and not how most think.

like 4 to 5 mythic bosses were puggable this tier, think a bunch were last tier too. not sure why thats so hard to believe?