Why didn't Blizzard attempt to balance racials?

[Cyriouss-grobbulus]

@Clockwise-benediction

The Horde is cooler even without the racials. Unfortunately the Horde players really are underestimating how many Alliance players went Alliance for queues and PvP. That’s why on average Alliance PvPers are and always have been better at the game. We play to kick butt. We love PvP. That’s why we rolled for queues. They can’t even imagine somebody rolling Alliance because they were thinking ahead and didn’t want to sit in queues like a donkey. They’re morons. There are just a lot less actual PvPers on the Alliance.

You can’t imagine ever playing a human or NE? We have to ruin an entire faction? Okay you snowflake “PvP” players. Horde PvPers are weak AF. They just want to play the dominant and cooler faction and roll people. They’re not looking for a fight. Most of them are trash imo. Always have been.

This. So much this!

[Indomitable-mankrik]

Balancing classes might be a good idea if it is used to discourage class stacking and excluding non meta specs. If the nerf bat is a threat, only the top guilds would class stack because the top classes would change each phase.

[Soulscapex-tichondrius]

if you want a game where theyre balancing classes, go play shadowlands

[Indomitable-mankrik]

They balanced classes in the original TBC so there is no reason to not do it here too. Class stacking wasn’t nearly as common back then because of the nerf bat being a real thing. Remember what happened in Classic when Warriors got to stay BROKENLY OP and it only got worse in later phases? If you don’t then guilds would have AT LEAST 12 fury warriors (counting the MTs having a variant of the spec) and would only take the minimum number of hunters they had to.

[Cauchy-heartseeker]

@Khlause-kurinnaxx

One thing I have noticed about Alliance is how garbage their healers are, some of them and I mean a very RARE few are very very good

I used to heal BGs. I dunno, it was a lot like playing Whack-a-Mole. I’ll toss crappy ret heals here and there. But in general, I go into BGs to mash hordies.

[Arielba-sulfuras]

@Clockwise-benediction

Unfortunately the Horde players really are underestimating how many Alliance players went Alliance for queues and PvP.

this. it’s inconceivable to most hordies. thinking ahead and making intelligent decisions are kind of outside their wheelhouse.

[Foxmumbler-westfall]

Personally I think that they originally didn’t know how racials would facto into the PvP game. Not a bad thing just that in 2004 this was all new. It is imbalanced but how can they fix it?

I mean they could but then it wouldn’t be classic…. But this is hardly a true version of TBC.

[Illutiankade-pagle]

@Thirstybeta-thunderfury

This is an MMO, not fortnight

And your point?

[Thirstybeta-thunderfury]

It’s not a perfectly symmetrical PVP esport. There are many RPG elements like having different abilities based on the race you choose. Stop trying to turn this game into something it’s not.

I thought it was a pretty straight forward simple point, but I don’t eat paint chips.

[Khlause-kurinnaxx]

That’s honestly better than most alliance dedicated healers because at least Ret Paladin can damage, CC and aid in combat in effect ways outside of combat.

[Cauchy-heartseeker]

I don’t heal all the time. Half the time I’m OOM from mana burns.

Heals typically happen during AV turtles or Drek fights.

I do enjoy the hybrid class… Metas be damned!

[Khlause-kurinnaxx]

I dislike that they foolishly went with the 2.3 or was it 2.2 healing stat = 30% spell damage also because it’s kinda game breaking in that it makes my priest OP as hell. Also makes balance dreamstate kinda OP also because the healing stat is 350% (not literally) over item budget because of a silly quality of life adjustment designed for a time when people were under the impression they needed to do dailies for gold…

Meanwhile they used early states on many things and late states and mid states on others… honestly sometimes I think they literally rolled dice to make decisions.

[Cauchy-heartseeker]

I’m just happy to be playing. Priests were always hard for ret. Elemenntal shamans have been lighting me up, too. But it is what it is.

[Illutiankade-pagle]

@Thirstybeta-thunderfury

It’s not a perfectly symmetrical PVP esport. There are many RPG elements like having different abilities based on the race you choose. Stop trying to turn this game into something it’s not.

I thought it was a pretty straight forward simple point, but I don’t eat paint chips.

Then PVP will continue to be lopsided, which will lead players to gravitate to the ‘better choice’.

So have fun in 5v5 BGs.

[Flufybunbunz-jubeithos]

just remove Racials from Arena and BG’s. Problem solved.

[Vicesify-azralon]

blood elfs helped with that too

[Shadyshifts-ashkandi]

That just makes the game bland and boring. We already have a bland and boring version of wow, it’s called shadowlands.

[Petdetective-pagle]

They’re already balanced.

[Thesixthman-stormscale (Thesixthman)]

Bring back 20second duration wotf imo

[Necrophe-emerald-dream]

Alliance have good pvp racials too. Perception->good against rogues and druids. Escape artist->good against mages. Stoneform->good against rogues and hunters. then you have: WOTF->good against warlock/priest. Hardiness->good against rogue. (i don’t remember the rest tbh.) People flock towards horde because it’s cool and edgy.