This is something that still kinda bothers me, throughout Vol’dun you can see many exiled Zandalari trolls. A large number of them made their way to the Alliance camp and were promptly massacred, with many of them appearing as neutral even to Alliance players. Even the Horde questing areas with Exiled Zandalari trolls they are not hostile towards the Alliance either being neutral or “unfriendly”.
Wouldn’t the Alliance want to try and establish connections with the exiled Zandalari trolls? Just killing them on contact just felt like a really weird thing for the Alliance to do.
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Because it’s a zone, and it has to have bad guys to grind, or else people will lose their minds.
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Dude, ever since Tyrande during Suramar (and for the whole of BfA), I’ve stopped trying to figure out Alliance writing.
It’s pretty obvious that we exist only to victimize Horde races (or future Horde races).
Any idea of ‘morality’ is tossed aside pretty quickly in an effort to make things “morally gray,” or as I like to call it, “morally Horde despite Sylvanas.”
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Are you talking about the faction that didn’t burn teldrassil for like no reason
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Most Alliance i have seen want them to do aggressive things.
So i dunno it’s a confusing topic.
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I just want some amount of consistency on the topic, tbh.
We’re either chivalrous and heroic, or we aren’t. Writers can’t seem to decide
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To be fair in Cata the Alliance had plans on doing the same thing to Orgrimmar -and- Jaina tried drowning Orgrimmar.
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I feel that way with Jaina.
She kind of got away with raiding Dazar’alor.
And depending if she is morally grey or a peace lover depends if i can like her or not.
I prefer the “morally grey side” it makes more sense for her to be violent anyway considering the circumstances.
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But I don’t think there is any Alliance quest outside of attacking a bandit group of Exiles that even raided the Horde camps where YOU are ordered to kill them. I’m mostly talking about how I see a bunch of Exils sleeping/crying close by the Alliance base with a bunch of corpses that are even closer to the base with Alliance spears/swords impaled in them.
I’m not against the Alliance being aggressive, just felt that attacking civilians/refugees who came seeking shelter/aid was out of character. I mean, I would just like some explanation, I don’t even care if it’s justified or just some Alliance captain going too far. just felt odd seeing a bunch of non aggressive exiles being impaled and shown as grisly trophies on the sands outside the base.
Nah, I have to agree with Malkarus. It does seem like a lot of the time Alliance are just just to victimize Horde races into joining the Horde. Like look at the Mag’har. Yrel took a complete 180 in character to make the Mag’har seem like these major victims.
And it’s like, I would be totally fine with Yrel actually attacking the Mag’har for the events of Warlords of Draenor. I think the same scenario could come to pass and it make sense. However, the way Blizzard wrote it, they made it sound like Yrel was a fanatic and a villain, and that the Mag’har were being unjustly assaulted. When instead, they could have wrote it as Yrel, maybe going overboard, but she felt that the Mag’har needed to be wiped out for attempting to genocide the Draenei people, completely unprovokedly.
You know, make Yrel morally gray, as opposed to morally black, lol.
But oh well. I still support Yrel regardless.
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I hate to say it…
But probably because their trolls… the alliance and trolls (even those not with the horde) have had bad blood long enough, its probably a shoot first mentality at this point.
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That was Jaina who was affiliated IIRC with the Kirin Tor. It took her dragon lover at the time and Thrall to talk her down.
Blizzard keeps trying to shoehorn the alliance into aggressive roles to balance out the horde. People associated the alliance with the good guys and the holier than thou types (which is warranted to a degree).
You got leaders like Genn and now Tyrande who have a permanent hate bone for the Horde along with select Horde equivalents like Nathanos.
Part of me feels like Blizzard is setting us up for a 4 faction setup aimed at splitting the PvE and PvP sides out with PvE variants allowed to group up with each other. Honestly I would wholly support that if done right. The entire BfA story (and Legion) was ridiculous and reeks of writing specifically to push this plot rather than it happening naturally…but I’m not about to type another novel out on this.
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Same reason you burned Vulpera caravans and sacked Zuldazar. Alliance are jerks.
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People love to make way too much out of this situation, she asked a perfectly acceptable question. The Nightborne are highborne NEs, it was their caste that took part in summoning the Legion to our world, only to side with them against everyone else. So thousands of years later when we find the lost city, we find them once again in league with the Legion. So when she asked that question is was because the Nighborne had a history of making questionable choices when it came to their use of magic and the Legion. No that clearly didn’t end with the Well of Eternity being blow up to stop them.
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Alliance player are evil and they always 5vs1 everything.
I have no problem with Tyrande acting like Tyrande. Because yes, the criticism was justified.
I’m more angry that they used it to jettison a faction over to the Horde that both sides had worked hard to win the friendship of during Legion.
In that regard, it genuinely began to feel more like a forced plot point than an in-character criticism. I think we can agree that Tyrande’s storywriting has been… weird, just in general.
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To be honest, the NB had more in common with the BEs then the NEs at that point in time. The NEs still were distrustful of arcane magic, while the BEs still embraced it. Plus the BEs could help them adjust to live after a long term addiction to magic. I think the writers just made her out to be their “excuse” for making what was probably a logical discussion in the first place.
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Exactly and this is one of my peeves with Legion and why Nightborne went Horde.
Elves are NOTORIOUS for being racist. Nightborne especially lived in a literal bubble for 10000+ years. The night elves are literally their own people. At worst, the faction should have went both sides. It would make more sense if Night Elves still shunned arcane magic, but Cata fixed that thread.
It isn’t like I want Nightborne on alliance. I just want a damn consistent story with plausible reasons for things. Blizzard could have easily did this by having Tyrande flat out refuse the Nightborne back into society as “punishment” for their role in the legion story arcs. That, at least, makes the Blood Elves portion of it far more likely having also been rejected by their elven kin.
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Blizzard doesn’t employ talented writers. This can never be said enough. They have creative writers - and creativity is wonderful. However, it’s similar to the distinction between writing a screenplay and a script.
WoW’s universe is inconsistent pure nonsense with characters completely changing their core identifying characteristics at the drop of a hat for the sake of the story they want to tell currently.
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