My mind can’t comprehend why I need to spend hours on internet, watch guides, tinker in settings for add-ons just so I can be on the same level as everyone else.
I think it’s absolutely unfair that the game on its own is not accessible and if you want to perform well you need to invest a huge amount of time setting add-ons up when the UI and amount of keybinds you need to set up is already complicated as it is.
And DON’T tell me that they are ‘optional’. You literally can’t do PvP without installing add-ons. I’ve never seen any arena video where people use default interface. Everyone should be equal in this regard and no one should spend this huge amount of time on making the game optimized and accessible.
I think blizzard should incorporate the top used add-ons in the game listen to player’s needs and feedback and disable the option to add them at all (it will never happen)
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At first as a convenience but nowadays its turned into an arms race vs the content devs who secretly despise us.
Particularly over flying.
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You really dont have to do any of that though.
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Install GladiusEx. Put it wherever you want on the screen. That’s it, you’re done for arenas.
Install BattlegroundEnemies. Put it wherever you want on the screen. That’s it, you’re done for RBGs.
Anything else you want to do stems from YOUR preferences and how you want things to be displayed, filtered, prioritized, whatever. And that’s why addons are a part of the game. So you can set up things the way you want.
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Exactly. That isn’t the players fault. There’s are hundreds of different mechanics you need to know and the only in-game cues for them are visuals and small debuff/buff icons that are almost impossible to notice in combat.
It isn’t the people that normalized it. This has been curated by Blizzard over two decades.
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Because they work. Top end guilds used addons, then lower guilds seeking to smooth out progression adopted what they were doing. Their strategies, their addons, their ui setups, their raid comps, all of it stems from “what they’re doing is working so we should follow what they are doing.” 21 years later here we are.
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Are you whining that people seek advantages in a competitive setting? Or maybe that you aren’t smart enough to play without them?
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It’s simple, people LIKE addons. They like that there are ways to customize the game they enjoy beyond what is available. For them, more customization and being as optimal as possible is part of the fun.
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I’m whining that it creates disbalance among players.
Even if I’m the dumbest person on earth I deserve to just play the game and not bother myself with making it accessible for myself. I don’t know any other online game that requires you installing add-ons not for fun, but to be able to play.
Did you see the default color for player’s names? It blends so badly with the environment. There’s literally a standardized contrast for usability. Does a person with a poor vision deserve to play a game where they can’t see basic UI elements? Especially when they pay for it on a monthly basis. You can only change the color of item rarity and they added this… Last week?
I personally don’t see anything with default nameplates. They are horrible and you cannot change it in game’s options. Why should I fix it myself or why should other players create add-ons for it when it’s developer’s job
Uh… I have quite a lot of guildies who don’t use addons. There are people here on this forum who don’t use addons.
Either this is a troll thread or you’re insanely in the dark.
Watch this video.
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It was part of the early internet ethos that things on our own pcs should be highly customizable. This ethos has gradually been lost over time, but wow’s broad acceptance of addons is something I have always enjoyed as a remnant of that
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There’s always going to be an imbalance between players because people play for different reasons.
Even if there were zero addons, the top percentage of the player base would be doing things differently than everyone else and if you wanted to compete with them, you would adopt their habits and playstyle.
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Playstyle and builds is one thing. Incorporating 3rd party resources is completely different
It sounds more like you are overwhelming yourself with what you feel you need to use rather than what you actually need to. You’re probably going to hate hearing it, but your distress is also optional.
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Can we agree that out of the 10,000 plus addons for WoW that the vast majority of them are purely cosmetic or quality of life improvements that have no impact on player performance?
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The game evolved this way because of its own design…
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Tonight, news at 5…

You absolutely do not need any kind of addons.
They are QoL.
Dbm helps with mechanics. I have it, but it’s mostly an annoyance. It’s good to learn the fight, some people use it as a crutch. I use it to help me learn mechanics. Beyond that, it literally annoys me.
Damage meters. Super helpful for improving yourself and seeing what others are doing around you.
Tbh I can’t think of much anymore beyond that. IO is integrated now. UI has it’s own editmode.
Like I use default frames and bars.
Like use them if you want to improve and min/max. But you absolutely do not need them to succeed.
Because they make it easier to monitor the enemies abilities and such.
Good players recognize major cds without addons. Using addons increases your reaction time since you don’t have to rely on default visual queues.
And any pvper worth their conquest uses addons because, like I said, it helps monitor all these nuance things.
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Add-ons are not required. I even think Blizz is trying to do away with add-ons.
The game being this way I’d be way behind the curve not using addons for casual BGs.