Why did everyone think Stormwind was harder than Org?

Ok, bare with me here as I’m finally taking a serious stab into Visions with masks. I’m playing a ilvl 445 Arms Warrior, full research and rank 15 cap… nothing special and kinda gimped myself by not going with my BM Hunter but thems the breaks. I 3 masked Stormwind super easy last week and prob could’ve 4 masked but was tired out so decided to just call it a week and gear up a bit more with my 3 mask drops. I get to Org 3 mask this week and everything hits so much harder here… which I should’ve expected given that Orcs > Humans but good lord.

It’s not even a mechanics issue… the mechanics are easily overcome at either… it’s just Org mobs do so much more damage than Stormwind mobs. Particularly in the Rexxar area, how do I avoid that stacking poison? It seems the little flies apply it as a passive to their auto attack? Should I just retalent into defensive stance or switch to prot to clear out the trash in Rexxar’s area? The timer is not an issue.

I unlocked the masks two weeks ago and then did the 5-mask runs for both of the zones. I think I got lucky with the madness combo last week, because the Stormwind vision was really easy (especially since I have a pet who can interrupt the ice barrage thing in mage tower). The Orgrimmar one took two tries, unfortunately, because I died while fighting Rexxar after getting bounced into the split personality orbs. On try two, I got lucky and got Gift of the Titans after killing the first boar and then I just zerged Rexxar.

Whoa, easy there. At least be a nice Orc and buy me dinner first even though you’re almost ready bare-chested and I have my fair share of showing off some skin.

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Sorry… you lost me here. I won’t get nekked with you :stuck_out_tongue:

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The cons of being a sex symbol are apparent

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Everyone’s so naked in this thread. I like it.

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I agree. The mobs and bosses are harder in Org visions. Rexxar and Thrall can drain you really fast if you’re not careful.

The only real difficult mob in Stormwind is the manic void-spewing blob in the last zone. As a caster, you have to deal massive damage before he gets to you, then keep running & insta-casting. This is hard on a balance druid with minimal direct damage insta-cast spells.

I can stomach Org.
Stormwind made me want to throw up every time I went into the city.

I’ve managed to 5 mask Stormwind but I still haven’t been able to do Orgrimmar. I’m just getting into endgame for this patch now but I don’t understand why most people think Orgrimmar > Stormwind either.

CC or nuke the Swarmleader as fast as you can. That bug buffs the other ones with insane amount of haste.

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Aight, where you want me? Where is “here,” bb?

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I don’t think Stormwind is any harder than Orgrimmar. I haven’t lost a vision yet in SW, but I have lost multiple times on the trash to Rexxar

But I will say that Stormwind is still more annoying. Mage Ouarter is the worst area to navigate out of both cities. And Alleria is 1000x more obnoxious than Thrall if you are melee.

The bugs and mini-bosses before Rexxar is the toughest stretch in either vision. Alleria is way tougher than Thrall for melee.

Overall, I’d say SW is tougher. Nothing threatening at all in Orgrimmar aside from those damn bugs. But this weeks madnesses are the worst possible combination imo. Last week’s SW was a bit easier than this week’s Orgrimmar.

I found stormwind easier. Took me ages to get past rexxar. Kept screwing up with the boars and split personality. But then last week I screwed up on alleria too because of that damn eye and her spell she does in the middle where you need to los her.

But to me stormwind is the easier of the 2

I have found as melee orgrimmar is easy but when playing a caster such as my mage I find stormwind easier.

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After doing multiple five mask runs, i would have to say stormwind is a little bit harder, mostly do to Aleria at the end being a nightmare for melee. As for orgrimar, Thrall is a pushover on five masks. The challege is Rexar as most people pointed out. You either go slow and take out boars or burst and kill him as fast as you can. Some helpful hints, stay close to the wall if split personallity is on and cc boars if you can. Also use bloodlust/drums for fight, helps speed up dps. Make sure to kill hidden buff bosses in visions as well.

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I just did my first 5 mask org this week and didn’t have too much trouble. I tried SW next and kept messing up in the mage quarter so SW is definitely more of a pain for me. I plan on knocking it out next week.

What makes Stormwind harder is two specific things, imo.

  1. The blob in mage tower is more unforgiving than Rexxar. Rexxar actually becomes incredibly easy due to being able to sit around waiting for titan buff CD, and being able to typically use lust on him. Blob you don’t generally have that luxury.

  2. Tight alleyways everywhere makes Split Personalities madness a killer, especially when coupled with the fear circle.

At this point in the tier cycle with so much gear, corruptions, etc, both become trivial more quickly.

Going from 3 masks to 5 masks is a huge deal. It means the blob can 1 shot you from full insanity to zero if you mess up, in a single mechanic failure.

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The relative difficulty of these visions only really mattered before everyone had a cloak with 80% sanity damage reduction and a full titan talent tree… With those things, they’re both easy outside of niche situations with the 1/2 sanity mask on.

But Stormwind was harder because:
-corridors that prevented you from dodging
-leaden foot for 635 consecutive weeks with bosses that required constant movement to even hope of getting uptime on them (when they weren’t teleporting away or stealthing so that you couldn’t hit them at all)
-random adds constantly wondering around keeping you in combat so that you can’t get rid of said leaden foot
-freaking undispellable 70% haste/movement reduction poison
-a zone whose objective you could completely miss completing if you happened to not be paying attention to your quest log
-a final boss that stands there a /lols and melee who try to dps her when she’s chain-casting all the other boss’s abilities

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Hmm… I think your just bad at Arms. Or are using a bad setup. You kill things you Victory Rush reset all the time.

I 5 masked Org before I 5 masked SW on my Arms Warrior.