Why did Blizzard screw up M+ so much?

You seriously can’t see what’s wrong with this statement? You are openly saying that it doesn’t matter what my argument is and that you are going to argue against it. LOL. If you can’t see how that’s is arguing in bad faith then that’s a you problem.

You just admitted to being a contrarian.

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You just keep repeating “I can’t explain why you are wrong” in different words. There comes a day in all our lives when we have to accept that we have lost and we are wrong, today is that day for you.

Orwyn: 2 - Sosari: 0

You can tell yourself that if it helps you sleep at night. All I needed to know was that you prejudged the argument and openly stated it.

This is the textbook definition of arguing in bad faith. There’s no point having a dialog with someone who openly admits that they are going to disagree no matter what.

At the end of the day, you are hard stuck in keys so you are here being a contrarian and crying to anyone who says tuning isn’t the issue.

Look man, its hard to admit when you are wrong but its a valuable life skill and central to finding some kind of peace with life and the fallibility of existence. What you are doing harms you more than me - you made a bad argument with poor data and you can’t admit that that happened. Its hard losing. Until next time baby boy.

Blizz is desperate for a viable E-Sport, and they clearly feel that M+ is their best bet. I personally feel that they are doing it wrong by creating a fixed meta each and every season, but maybe this season will be where their E-Sport finally takes off - who knows.

I don’t know the answer to this question, but the good news is many people in my communities seems to have quit M+ and are actually showing up looking for raids again on Sat. Others are making Delve groups. DF was the first expansion that I wasn’t part of a regular sat raid group.

Sosari is gone and all is peaceful once again.

And I agree - raids feel like a family bar-b-que. It is nice to see more people in raids.

You should take your own advice about admitting that you are wrong. You saying the quiet part out loud of that you are going too reject the argumentation no matter what I say just proves that you were never arguing in good faith. Try again bud. Go back to trying to time some keys.

You aren’t arguing, you are talking to yourself. You can’t articulate yourself and you are blaming me. I took the time to type out what I thought you were saying and I asked for the same from you and you wont do it so I don’t know where this idea of me being bad faith comes from?

It also is irrelevant what your argument was because the data you used to support it was flawed. You have numerous confounds in the data you used (5, I numbered them and explained each one to you) and you wont even address this. Why? You either don’t understand or you are trying to change the subject to something, anything that you can point to change the subject. You keep doing this, we go in a circle and arrive back here.

You lost. Its ok.

I did and I stopped after you admitted that you were intentionally arguing in bad faith. If you want people to take you seriously maybe don’t say you are going to disagree no matter what.

I’ve spelled this out for you multiple times. Stop trying to pretend you don’t know.

I’m sure their bottom line is floating on a nice bed of WoW tokens. It only makes sense that engagement is down if you look at the amount of completed raids and keys compared to the same point of the Xpac for any of DFs seasons.

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Is this the part where you say I am bad faith because I showed your conclusions were based on poor data and therefore did not prove your point?

Are we going to do this again?

You mean when you compare numbers when seasons prior to DF S4 logged M+2 and up while TWW is only logging previous M+12 and up?

Apparently because that’s all you do. You done how don’t see a problem with saying you are going to disagree before the argument is started. Lmao.

I think this is just from a basic misunderstanding about how arguments are formulated. There are two primary types of logic used argumentative reasoning: Inductive and Deductive.

Inductive reasoning is where you take data, patterns, and trends and use them to formulate a theory to explain why. This is what you did.

Ex. Everytime I drop a pear it falls down → There must be a force that is pushing upon it in that direction.

Deductive reasoning is when you take a hypothesis and support it with data, patterns, and trends to prove it.

Ex. He must be the killer because the knife found at the scene had his finger prints, he was in the area at the same time, and his clothes had blood stains that matched that of victim.

In either of these forms they rely on evidence to support their claim. If the evidence collected is poor or incorrect than the premise is also incorrect because it relies on its soundness to prove validity.

The support for your claim was logically incorrect - you were comparing things that are not alike. I showed you the 5 ways in which your data was confounded and now we are here again.

I hope you learned something while getting this L today Sosari.

Every single thing you said is moot simply because of the fact that when I asked you to restate what my argument, you were unable to. Which means everything you argued with me about was based on your false understanding of what’s being argued.

You can keep playing oblivious, but the fact remains that I refused to restate my argument for you because you opened admitted it wouldn’t matter what the argument is and that you would disagree anyway.

The data itself isn’t wrong. The way you think it’s being used is.

Keep trying bud.

I don’t need to. You already lost.

How does it feel losing to a terrible pug like me?

I didn’t lose anything. I’ve explained it to you well enough already to the point where I can now just copy paste it.

Every single thing you said is moot simply because of the fact that when I asked you to restate what my argument, you were unable to. Which means everything you argued with me about was based on your false understanding of what’s being argued.

You can keep playing oblivious, but the fact remains that I refused to restate my argument for you because you opened admitted it wouldn’t matter what the argument is and that you would disagree anyway.

The data itself isn’t wrong. The way you think it’s being used is.

Go back to trying to actually time your keys. Btw, I pug too.

Hah, its so funny that this is supposed to be a sic burn. Yes, your IO is higher than mine - grats. It must suck to lose to an inferior player.

What did I lose exactly? You openly admitted to arguing in bad faith.

To everyone reading this thread:

This man is a black hole. It is a waste of time to try to reason with him. He is bad faith and only here to make you upset. He will not stop arguing with you no matter what you say until you stop engaging. I hope this is instructive to anyone else who posts on this thread to be chastised without a purpose by Sosari. The only way way to stop him is to ignore him like I am going to do now.

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